Discussion of D*s upcoming conversion to MPEG 4

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Directv announced today that MPEG4 will start at the beginning of 2nd half of the 2005 year. The first markets will benefit first then slowly everyone else who will benefit from MPEG4 HD. Directv also announced that current HD custmers who have HD and will have their HD boxes upgraded at Directv's expense in which they will cover the cost for in 2006! Also Local HD is not only on the agenda, National HD channels will be launched as well!!! :D

This info came from the Live Conference call today at 1pm!
Things we expect to allow D* to leapfrog the competition:

Our announced plan to offer later this year a more advanced DVR, and dramatically expand our HD program. We will also introduce a product that we be a transforming product for both our company and the industry. The Home Media Center, or Home Gateway as we may refer to it, is being developed in-house by DirecTV. It will provide whole-house connectivity with all multimedia systems with mobility for devices outside the home. And since we control the design and architecture, I’m confident that over time, the Home Gateway will drive our customer retention costs lower. I say this for a few reasons.

First, since the Home Gateway will provide, HDTV, DVR and other home media services throughout the house, our upgrade or retention costs should be lower. We also expect to save on installation costs when we are able to connect the system wirelessly. We will introduce a revised marketing offer more akin to a lease plan. And finally we are designing the system to be very flexible and easily upgradeable.


From the Q&A period:

We’ll have the upgrade to MPEG 4 at the early part of the second half of the year and we will clearly convert our HD customers which at today’s numbers are about half a million. The people that sign up for the Spaceway services will be timed so that they will be receiving Spaceway capable, or MPEG4 set top boxes. So you would not have a conversion required for those new customers that are signing up for the Spaceway services. What we will have is a set of customers that take HD that will have to be converted to be able to receive the Ka signal, so it will have to be the customers who don’t work on Spaceway that will have to be converted and that will be a potential marketing cost that we’ll have to bear in ’05 or rather early ’06.

..: …and it will be staggered, the first wave will be 12 markets, and then more thereafter. So I think around the same time, if all goes well and our Home Gateway is introduced, the conversion may be part of that, not just going to your house and replacing some equipment. Part of a whole new issue to the home.

Do you expect that you will be going to MPEG 4 for all of your CONUS or national HD programming as well for efficiency reasons….?

Yeah, it will clearly be a transition – there will still be customers well into ’06 that will still be getting HD programming over the Legacy based – we’re only talking about the half million existing customers, all new customers that buy into the Spaceway sats will be getting HD LIL’s and National HD channels over MPEG4. It’s the Legacy customers that will be converted over ’05 & ’06…or converted over time to MPEG4.

Special thank to CPanther95 @ AVS Forum for this timely edit!
 
On the down side! In very few words those with HDTivo's are basically being told suck it up because the came down on the price and HDTivos work well! No report so far whether HDTivos will be fully replaced or upgraded if possible. All in all HDTivo customer are still getting the run around!! Sorry Guys!
 
I really look forward to 'comparison' reports of OTA vs SAT delivered local HD. I just find it hard to believe that live HD mpeg2 can be converted on the fly to HD mpeg4 without some sort of signal degradation. But I hope I'm wrong.
 
Smthkd said:
On the down side! In very few words those with HDTivo's are basically being told suck it up because the came down on the price and HDTivos work well! No report so far whether HDTivos will be fully replaced or upgraded if possible. All in all HDTivo customer are still getting the run around!! Sorry Guys!

I don't understand what you are saying? :confused:
 
TimGoodwin said:
I don't understand what you are saying? :confused:

In other word, they didnt give us a clear answer on how HDTivo customers are going to upgraded. (ie. New HDTivos that are Mpeg4, Upgrade os software or nothing at all) THEY JUST WOULDN"T SAY! :no
 
Did you say they lowered the price of the HDTivo? How much is it now?
 
Damn it I forgot about the DirecTV Earnings call today! Sorry about that... I was busy working on the new server and it totally slipped my mind. :(
 
So the question is what box will we be viewing the new mpeg-4 channels at the beginning of the second half? The only box announced that will decode mpeg-4 is the new home media center box which is supposed to be delivered at the end of 2005 if i remember correctly. So for possibly 6 months those new channels will not be viewable? And I don't get what is meant by cover the cost in 2006. Does that mean the new boxes won't be out until then? With each D* announcement lately I seem to be more confused about what they are doing. :)
 
gene1138 said:
So the question is what box will we be viewing the new mpeg-4 channels at the beginning of the second half? The only box announced that will decode mpeg-4 is the new home media center box which is supposed to be delivered at the end of 2005 if i remember correctly. So for possibly 6 months those new channels will not be viewable? And I don't get what is meant by cover the cost in 2006. Does that mean the new boxes won't be out until then? With each D* announcement lately seems to makes me more confused about what they are doing. :)
D* said they will start switching boxes at the beginning of the second half of this year (which is around June/July). The media center isnt the only box they created to do mpeg4 I assure you! Also, when they said "cover the cost in 2006" they meant, after they switch everyone's old Mpeg2 boxes the final cost for this conversion will be deducted in their 2006 budget! In other word D* is paying the bill for us to get new Mpeg4 HD settop boxes!! :yes
 
Smthkd said:
On the down side! In very few words those with HDTivo's are basically being told suck it up because the came down on the price and HDTivos work well! No report so far whether HDTivos will be fully replaced or upgraded if possible. All in all HDTivo customer are still getting the run around!! Sorry Guys!
This makes me be glad to be so close to the DirecTV operations in Denver. I'll pay 100.00 for the new HMC, or take any HD DVR for free, anything short of this I'll drive to Denver an place my receiver firmly up someone's ***!

On a more realistic note, let's assume there are 15,000 HD TiVo's out there today (10% of the HD subs). 15,000 is a pretty easy class-action lawsuit ... heck 1,500 is pretty easy in that light. I am sure D* will do the right thing to take care of the premium customer base. They know what they face if they don't.
 
What features will the new Mpeg4 HD box have that the Mpeg 2 don't now have. Sorry, I just watch HD don't really care how I get it, just as long as I get it.
 
Sharpie said:
What features will the new Mpeg4 HD box have that the Mpeg 2 don't now have. Sorry, I just watch HD don't really care how I get it, just as long as I get it.
Future possibility to access VOD and capable of full Interactive functions with NFLST and the new Mixed channels. :p
 
The real question is will the new Mpeg4 box cost more than the current Mpeg2 box (for new subs).

Because I would rather wait a few months after DA* starts using Mpeg4 before switching, but I might switch sooner if the new Mpeg4 box is going to cost $500 bucks for new subs.
 
second half of this year (which is around June/July)

Based on calendar quarters and halves, July 1 will be the first day of the 2nd half or the 3rd quarter of 2005.

* 1st Quarter - January 1 2005 through March 31 2005 (1st hafl)
* 2nd Quarter - April 1 2005 through June 30 2005 (1st half)
* 3rd Quarter - July 1 2005 through September 30 2005 (2nd half)
* 4th Quarter - October 1 2005 through December 31 2005 (2nd half)

Based on fiscal quarters and halves, that depends on the company; most companies operate as:

* 1st Quarter - October 1 2004 through December 31 2004 (1st hafl)
* 2nd Quarter - January 1 2005 through March 31 2005 (1st half)
* 3rd Quarter - April 1 2005 through June 30 2005 (2nd half)
* 4th Quarter - July 1 2005 through September 30 2005 (2nd half)

I assume that D* was talking calendar year, so 7/1/2005 begins the second half.
 
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