CNN and HLN gone/ Dish-Turner Dispute - Now Back 11/21

[whitewolf8214]

CNN a pawn in Dish Network-Turner battle
Oct 22 2014, 11:39 ET | By: Clark Schultz, SA News Editor

Though a quick resolution is expected by analysts watching the dispute between Dish Network (DISH +1.1%) and Time Warner (TWX +1.1%) which has left 8 Turner Broadcasting channels dark on Dish, a lasting impact could be felt.
Dish's willingness to lop off CNN, while keeping TNT and TBS alive on its programming, cuts away at the news network's must-have status.
CNN has temporarily been replaced on Dish's channel #200 by a MSNBC feed.
What to watch: Negotiations are hovering over carriage fees for older content (Seinfeld, Friends) that Dish maintains is easily available from other sources and smaller non-core networks which Turner tries to bundle. Some media analysts think Dish will win concessions.

http://seekingalpha.com/news/2048855-cnn-a-pawn-in-dish-network-turner-battle#email_link

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I am betting CNN wishes they were on DISH right now.

 

[Hall]

I doubt if one in ten customers calls up for a credit.

1 in 1000 is more probably on the low side actually !

 

[Ronnie-]

I am betting CNN wishes they were on DISH right now.

No kidding.

 

[JSheridan]

I am betting CNN wishes they were on DISH right now.

Yes sir. There's a lot of eyes that aren't able to see CNN right now.

 

[bigjohnok]

With all these credits being issued I really wonder if dish does get turner to lower the price slightly if in the end they even come out ahead, dish is losing a lot of money with these credits.

Dish isnt losing money its called a loss and is written off on their corporate taxes.

 

[bigjohnok]

Scott Greczkowski said: ?
I am betting CNN wishes they were on DISH right now.

Yes sir. There's a lot of eyes that aren't able to see CNN right now.

From what I have read it was Turner that told Dish to pull its channels.

 

[IcEWoLF]

It would be funny if TBS and TNT would get pulled off from Dish...especially when NBA season is about to start...it would be a big blow to Dish if they can't resolve this quickly.

 

[Tampa8]

It would be funny if TBS and TNT would get pulled off from Dish...especially when NBA season is about to start...it would be a big blow to Dish if they can't resolve this quickly.

Nah, over a season virtually all games are on local RSN's those few over a dispute time wouldn't make a difference. Playoff would. Dish just dropped the Celtics games and virtually no one who got that RSN really cares. Try that with the Red Sox or Patriots. (Or even Bruins)

 

[Hall]

I am betting CNN wishes they were on DISH right now.

No kidding.

Yes sir. There's a lot of eyes that aren't able to see CNN right now.

Probably not that big of a loss - the average American knows zilch about non-domestic news.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I guess you haven't turned on a radio or TV since this thing started a few hours ago.

 

[Tampa8]

The Canadian event underscores the problem Turner faces at least with CNN and HLN. If someone with DISH turned to CNN to see this news event, the worst is they watch on MSNBC or FOX. The fact CNN isn't available hurts CNN, not DISH or it's customers. Maybe if CNN was gone for good DISH maybe would lose some subscribers though I question how much. (I actually do watch CNN at times so it isn't that I won't watch them)

 

[Skytrooper]

Will this tide you over for a while ?

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News you can watch with the sound off.

 

[bigjohnok]

The Canadian event underscores the problem Turner faces at least with CNN and HLN. If someone with DISH turned to CNN to see this news event, the worst is they watch on MSNBC or FOX. The fact CNN isn't available hurts CNN, not DISH or it's customers. Maybe if CNN was gone for good DISH maybe would lose some subscribers though I question how much. (I actually do watch CNN at times so it isn't that I won't watch them)

The Pew survey was conducted March 19-April 29.

The five major news networks top the trust spectrum, with 54 percent of respondents saying they trust CNN, 50 percent saying they trust ABC and NBC, 46 percent saying they trust CBS and 44 percent saying they trust Fox News.

Forty-four percent of respondents say they get their news from CNN.

 

[bigjohnok]

It would be funny if TBS and TNT would get pulled off from Dish...especially when NBA season is about to start...it would be a big blow to Dish if they can't resolve this quickly.

actually the tnt and tbs contracts run out in a couple weeks.

 

[Yespage]

Forty-four percent of respondents say they get their news from CNN.

How?! That'd be like watching TWC to get info about the weather.

 

[Tampa8]

The Pew survey was conducted March 19-April 29.

The five major news networks top the trust spectrum, with 54 percent of respondents saying they trust CNN, 50 percent saying they trust ABC and NBC, 46 percent saying they trust CBS and 44 percent saying they trust Fox News.

Forty-four percent of respondents say they get their news from CNN.

And??? If you are inferring people won't watch FOX or MSNBC if CNN is not available that would be grossly incorrect. Further, trust, not trust means nothing, it's what people actually do that matters. Not a political statement, but facts are FOX is overwhelmingly watched over CNN (Or MSNBC) and during events especially so. FOX was the most watched basic cable network last quarter - not just news network. And while they are over 1 1/2 million during primetime CNN struggles with trying to get over 400, 000. My florida County has more than 400,00 people.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/q3-2014-ratings-fox-news-is-most-watched-cable-network_b240618

My point is I stand by post. People who are not already going to FOX and clearly most are, will not care much right now if CNN is not available, they have at least two other choices. It's why CNN/HLN is having so many layoffs. Turner needs to get back on DISH to get what precious few viewers they have back to watching CNN.

 

[JSheridan]

I haven't watched MSNBC in years, until today.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

More political ramblings removed.

Please keep the topic on the removal of the channels, not where the channels (and your personal) politics lie.

Remember we do have The Pit forum here if you want to talk politics.

 

[Hall]

I guess you haven't turned on a radio or TV since this thing started a few hours ago.

I'm well aware of what's going on. I also have been known to watch BBC News, Al Jazeera, and others. My point was, the incident you're referring to is in Canada, not the US. Most Americans know nothing about Canada other than it's cold up there, they get a lot of snow, and they like hockey.