Class Action Lawsuit against Dish for Dropping Voom?

I think its all about the bad publicity. I have done my complaining so right now I am trying to wait and see what happens. Maybe we will get lucky and this will all work out and we will think Dish finally made the right decisions.
 
I think its all about the bad publicity. I have done my complaining so right now I am trying to wait and see what happens. Maybe we will get lucky and this will all work out and we will think Dish finally made the right decisions.

Not all class action lawsuits generae a lot of publicity. why do you feel that this one would?
 
My premise was simply that there must be some limits to what they can do. Where's the line? Seriously.

Again, I'm not in favor of a lawsuit here. I am curious though, if you are so annoyed by this discussion as your last few sentences lead me to believe, why continue to follow the thread and participate in the conversation?

Yes clearly if you disagree with what a poster says you should remain silent.

as for the "lines" involved wel here are two lines you can't cross. One is that neither party can do something that is forbidden by the contract. Another line would be doing something that is actually illegal (like chopping off the other parties' fingers) but in this case neither line has been crossed. Consumer contracts are one sided but this is not even an extreme case of that. reada credit card agreement sometime.

What this boils down is that some of you are mad and think that you are entitled to sue because of it. Unfortunately there is nothing here that is really actionable here. Just because you don't like that does not alter it. but again if ysome ofou are so convinced that you have a case go ahead and file it. Similarly if you truly feel that it will get news coverage or influence DISH or VOOM then proceed. Just don't tell the rest of us that we have no right to point out that we feel it is frivolous lawsuit.
 
Not all class action lawsuits generae a lot of publicity. why do you feel that this one would?
How many Dishnetwork Voom customers were there? And of that Number How many gave 2 S#*^s about Voom? I agree with Geronimo, Publicity is something this complaint is NOT going to generate. The same 10 people in the E* forums isn't going to do squat. Nor is the Bogus Petition, That everyone signed twice or even 3 times,Including Charle. Yea Thats a crediable and professional Petition. Just like this bogus lawsuit.
 
But dropping VOOM and replacing it with other channels is not illegal so that particular argument wil not work...

...let's not exaggerate the reduction in channels

I hate to say something that might be construed as support for the original poster, but I think I've ranted enough that there shouldn't be any confusion.

In the HD Ultimate package, 15 channels of Voom was replaced by THREE channels. The $10 premium payed for that tier once bought 19 channels, it now buys 7. That's a 63% reduction (And that's if you give WFN credit for being an HD channel, which it is not at this time.)

If your two year agreement required you to purchase a minimum package that contained 100 channels, and then the package was reduced to 37
, then I think there would definitely be some legal merit to the argument that they were not holding up their end of the bargain.

But again, absolutely nobody is being forced to stay at this tier, and in fact DISH hasn't even been charging the downgrade fee to people who press the issue.
 
Has anyone contacted E*? Your not going to tell me they aren't giving Credits for the complaints, $5 or $10 off per month? If you accepted a credit for losing VOOM, then its time to move on. If your complaining up a storm and never contacted E* by PHONE to state your complaint, then those of you should sit there quietly.
 
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Everyone apparently keeps ignoring the fact that Charlie owns 20% of VOOM. Is Charlie prepared to forfeit his investment by allowing VOOM to disappear or does Charlie have other plans?

BTW. The primary effect of a class action lawsuit (if it were possible) would be some unfavorable publicity which does produce results at times.

So do letters to editor in local papers.
 
Name three websites, not counting SatelliteGuys, DBSTalk, and AVS Forums, that have any reasonably amount of discussion, i.e. publicity, about the dropping of VOOM.

In fairness i think that his argument was that the lawsuit would generate this publicity.
 
there are a large number of customers very unhappy with what has happened.

What makes you think that? Define a large number.

Lawsuits are indeed for the weak! That's what law is for, not the strong and powerful.

I guess I should have said "pathetic and selfish", not "weak".

The law is (theoretically) to protect people and organizations from physical and financial harm. It should protect a bum on the street and a mammoth corporation equally.

Has DISH annoyed me? Yes. Have I been harmed by DISH? No. Do I have recourse against them? Yes, I can take my business elsewhere, or at the least, stop paying for the tier that included Voom.

In this case, it is DISH who needs protection from a tiny percentage of their customers who think that the legal system exists to handle their petty concerns.

As a taxpayer who helps pay the salary of the judges and the court support staff and the courthouses, and the utilities in the courthouse, ect...I have every right to be opposed to you. Plus, I'm helping to pay DISH's lawyers too.

F*** it...people like you are causing ALL OF US financial harm. I'm going to file a class action lawsuit against everyone who has filed a frivolous lawsuit. Want in? Of course you do. "Sue everybody..."


the adverse publicity would be a potent weapon.

There would be no publicity.
 
In fairness i think that his argument was that the lawsuit would generate this publicity.
Why is he still here talking to us , Maybe he should get started! These kinds of lawsuits last years and make lawyers Millions. So by 2011 all the Voom fans will have their $1 off ppv "hd ppv only,offer not valid with HD Only pack, requires 18 month commitment"
 
Name three websites, not counting SatelliteGuys, DBSTalk, and AVS Forums, that have any reasonably amount of discussion, i.e. publicity, about the dropping of VOOM.


tvpredictions.com Monstershd.com highdefforum.com

These are not as in depth or big as the others you mentioned but there are others who are upset.
 
Why is he still here talking to us , Maybe he should get started! These kinds of lawsuits last years and make lawyers Millions. So by 2011 all the Voom fans will have their $1 off ppv "hd ppv only,offer not valid with HD Only pack, requires 18 month commitment"

OK but just as i don't think that they should compare the dropping of VOOM to cutting off water or chopping off fingers I don't think that their arguments should be mischaracterized.

I know that some don't think i should post here but I have tried to be fair and to look for the facts. That is why I went to the residential agreement itself to see what we all agreed to instead of simply trying to recall it. i do think that they have a point about the lack of notice but I am a lot less sure about whether it would make much difference. But let's stick to the facts.
 
Many months back I got a form from a class action lawsuit against credit card companies' excessive foreign transaction fees charged from 1996 to 2006. I did travel abroad in that time frame and did use a credit card. I was overcharged for the service and this mighty class-action lawsuit has saved the day. According to the forms, I might get $25 (less if more people opt in) for all of their overcharges. Boy, I'm glad they did this:) I'm really happy with our judicial system...
 
I opted in to a class action suit a few years ago against my auto insurance company and we won!! To this day I still have the check I received for 14 ¢. Yep, 0.14.
 
tvpredictions.com Monstershd.com highdefforum.com

These are not as in depth or big as the others you mentioned but there are others who are upset.
I bit and checked the Monster.com board. 8 complaints about Dish.
 
Shouldn't a person be mad if they just spent $2,000 on a tv and a 2 year commitment to a cable company only to have their HD content drastically change?

You aren't fooling me or anybody else one bit. Voom did not weigh that much into your decision to buy a $2000 HDTV. If Voom did not exist, you would have bought the TV anyway. This is not going to hold up in court, even if you find an attorney to take your case.

Sure, you decided to go with Dish based on Voom. At best, maybe they will let you out of your contract if you escalate it high enough. I believe you looked at the prgramming and Voom looked attractive to you and you signed on with Dish instead of DirecTV or the cable companies. So you have a valid point there. But to say you bought this TV in any way based on the fact that you would be subscribing to Dish with Voom is a major stretch and I am not believing you. You bought an HDTV because you wanted an HDTV. You use it for more than Voom. Who knows? Maybe you use it for OTA, HD-DVD, bluray, video games, or other HD sources. You surely watch other channels, aside from Voom.

Aside from all that, when did you sign up with Dish for two years? Was it after November of 2007? Because the downfall of Voom has been widely discussed since it went downhill in November of 2007. I personally have participated in dozens of posts discussing Monsters HD going down the toilet. When I signed up for Dish I paid an extraf $50 and did not sign a contract. I am glad I did. Not just because of Voom, but the fact that DirecTV (which I have now) and other providers began passing Dish up on HD. When my cable company matched the national channels carried by Dish (minus the toiletbowl Voom), I knew it was time to drop Dish. I wasn't in a contract so I was able to easily ditch Dish.

I am happy as a clam with DirecTV and BHN cable in my house now. I wasn't happy about paying all that upfront with DirecTV but it blows Dish away.

I am sorry about your situation and how you feel. I would try getting Dish to let you out of your contract because you signed up in part because of Voom. They may work with you. It is worth a try. But you need to get this lawsuit idea out of your head. It isn't going to work.
 

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