Churn and Burn!

[moqz1001]

Well, that conversation took a turn. I'm not feeling the love down here in Florida!

I hope my picture quality is good with cable, but if it isn't I will tell em to take it back that day. I will find out on Saturday.

As I said in my opening statement, I love DTv and Tivo, but I'm just frustrated with costs and limited HD offerings. Hopefully in the future they will have their FCC problems with Local Channels ironed out, they will change their pricing structure with the DVR's, and they will have their new sats up offering more HD signals. I'm stoked about switching to cable because I hate when a company tries to stick it to you and is arrogant enough to think their customers will fork over the dough and don't have any options. Kind of like the cable company use to be.

p.s. I'm not lying or taking recreational pharmaceuticals, I only do that on Friday's!

Also I read somewhere that ESPN only broadcasts in 720 because there is too much action and a higher res, like 1080, doesn't look good. True? Not true? I don't know, it sounds reasonable.

Thanks Mike.
Liberty and HD for all!

i am not saying 1080 I I am saying 1080 P

 

[moqz1001]

And in with our local cable.
1. Loosing a lot of the stations that are on satellite.
2. Paying more a month for less channels.
3. Getting cables poorer Picture Quality.

Can't see any gain there.

1.. loosing alot, a cable company 5 miles from me has all channels directv has, PLUS a buch of the below channels

if there line came in my area id be with them in a heartbeat

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-ON DEMAND - AND ALL AS LAUNCHED

=ADULT
ADULT SWIM CARTOONS
HERE!
HUSTLER
PLAYBOY
SPICE

=ETC
A&E
BBC AMERICA
COMEDY CENTRAL
HOWARD STERN
INHD 1
INHD 2
MAG RACK
SLEUTH CHANNEL
TBS
TNT

=FAMILY
ANIME NETWORK
CARTOON NETWORK
CLASSIC KIDS
DISNEY
NICK
PBS KIDS SPROUT
SMITHSONIAN
TV LAND

=MOVIES
CINEMAX
ENCORE
IFC
HBO
SHOWTIME
STARZ
SUNDANCE
TMC

=MUSIC
CMT
CONCERT TV
GAC
MTV
VH1

=NEWS & INFO
BIOGRAPHY
CNN
CNBC
COURT
DISCOVERY
SISCOVERY KIDS
DIY NETWORK
FINE LIVING
FOX
FOOD NETWORK
G4
HISTORY
HGTV
MSNBC
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC
THIRTEEN

=SPORTS
GOLF
NFL
SPEED
SPORTSKOOL
WWE

=WOMENS
OXYGEN
LIFETIME
WE

_____________________________________________________________
-HDTV - AND ALL AS LAUNCHED

=MOVIES
CINEMAX
ENCORE
IFC
STARZ
SUNDANCE
TMC

=MUSIC
MHD

=SPORTS
FSN
MSG
NESN
NBA
NFL
OLN
OUTDOOR CHANNEL 2
YES

=ETC
BRAVO
FOOD NETWORK
HGTV
INHD
NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC CHANNEL
WEALTH TV

=VOOM CHANNELS
DISH NETWORK

_____________________________________________________________
-SDTV - AND ALL AS LAUNCHED

=ETC
AFRICA CHANNEL
AMERICA ONE
BEAUTY & FASHION
CASINO CHANNEL
CLASSIC ARTS SHOWCASE
COLOURS
DRIVE TV
FREE SPEECH TV
I TV
MAVTV
MENS CHANNEL
MILITARY HISTORY CHANNEL
OVATION
PENTAGON CHANNEL
REALITY TV
RESORT & RESIDENCE
SLEUTH CHANNEL
STYLE
VARSITY TV
WISDOM CHANNEL

=FAMILY & KIDS
AMERICA CHANNEL
AMERICAN LIFE TV
BLACK FAMILY CHANNEL
FAMILY NET
NICK GAS
NICK TOO

=MOVIES
CINEMAX
AT MAX
5 STAR MAX
ACTION MAX
OUTER MAX
THRILLER MAX
W MAX
ENCORE MOVIE PLEX
HALLMARK MOVIE CHANNEL
HBO COMEDY
HBO ZONE
SHOWTIME
BEYOND
EXTREME
FAMILY ZONE
NEXT
WOMEN
STARZ CINEMA
STARZ COMEDY
STARZ KIDS & FAMILY
TMC XTRA

=MUSIC
GOSPEL MUSIC CHANNEL
MTV HITS
MTV JAMS
SOUNDTRACK CHANNEL
VH1 COUNTRY
VH1 MEGA HITS
VH1 ROCK
VH1 SOUL

=NEWS & INFO
ABC NEWS NOW
CNN INTERNATIONAL
CRIME & INVESTIGATION CHANNEL
CSPAN-3
DOCUMENTARY CHANNEL
GOOD SAMARITAN NETWORK
HEALTHY LIVING CHANNEL
NORTHERN ARIZONA UNIVERSITY
PANHANDLE AREA EDUCATIONAL
RESEARCH CHANNEL
UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA TV
UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON TV

=SHOPPING
ISHOP
TV OUTLET MALL

=SPORTS
COMCAST
HORSE RACING CHANNEL
TENNIS CHANNEL

=SUPER STATIONS
BOSTON WSBK
DENVER KWGN
LOS ANGELES KTLA
NEW YORK WPIX
NEW YORK WWOR
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[moqz1001]

I absolutely love when people say my receivers don't work. I have had an r-15 since December and I have not had a problem with it yet. I have had the h-20 since January, and agsin, no problems. It is a poor musician that blames his instruments. It may boil down to two facts:

1. My installer knew what he was doing and installed my dish correctly.
2. I know how to work the equipment.

I think the people here that bash D*, E*, or their cable are just looking for free stuff. God forbid you pay for anything. I lost my picture for two minutes the other night because of very heavy thunderstorms, I did not call D* for 3 free months of HBO. If you don't like your service, drop it. If you don't drop it, shut up. Nobody cares about you.

you must be smoking something ... even directv has admitted their guide is fouled up and series links do not work correct and that you can not record shows on diffrent channels that are same show

 

[lou_do]

1.. loosing alot, a cable company 5 miles from me has all channels directv has, PLUS a buch of the below channels

if there line came in my area id be with them in a heartbeat
_________________________________________

What is the name of that cable company? Sounds good compared to ours.

 

[Satmeister]

I absolutely love when people say my receivers don't work. I have had an r-15 since December and I have not had a problem with it yet. I have had the h-20 since January, and agsin, no problems. It is a poor musician that blames his instruments. It may boil down to two facts:

1. My installer knew what he was doing and installed my dish correctly.
2. I know how to work the equipment.

I think the people here that bash D*, E*, or their cable are just looking for free stuff. God forbid you pay for anything. I lost my picture for two minutes the other night because of very heavy thunderstorms, I did not call D* for 3 free months of HBO.

I'm with you completely. No REAL problems either, other than the short term audio nuisance on Dolby for HD locals - which they fixed in short order. I surely didn't even think of picking up the phone and ask for $100 off my service or 12 months of HBO either. Anyone who's had sophisticated equipment knows hiccups are normal, but not a "problem". Firmware updates are common with most audio/video electronics.

Clearly the whiners you reference are part of the "what can I get for free for complaining" crowd. Some are also part of the "attorney-lawsuit" crowd - in fact, a few have made their lame "class action" statements here on this site regarding equipment. They infiltrate and run rampant on threads and boards - complaining and sarcastic over and over. The interesting thing is that I've read the exact same type of comments in Dish and cable threads.

This is just a sad "illness" in our society - agree or else prepare to be verbally assaulted...and by the way, I want everything for free. Here are just a couple of recent cases in point:

you must be smoking something ...

Thats insane. Apparently the D* fanboys like yourself cant see PQ problems.

local in to local who gives a crap? that shows your lack of iq.

And how about this exchange about the H20....

How MUCH do you want to bet that this doesn't wind up as a class action law suit?

Hmmm.... "CLASS ACTION" material.....? :devil: :yikes
Any lawyers available to consult if this situation would qualify? :

Things have gotten quite pathetic. These boards used to be great product and service informational resources, but they've been turned into "whine and gripe" sessions. It's sad really...

 

[Paul Wozniak]

Well said sir.

 

[moqz1001]

What is the name of that cable company? Sounds good compared to ours.

time warner

 

[moqz1001]

I'm with you completely. No REAL problems either, other than the short term audio nuisance on Dolby for HD locals - which they fixed in short order. I surely didn't even think of picking up the phone and ask for $100 off my service or 12 months of HBO either. Anyone who's had sophisticated equipment knows hiccups are normal, but not a "problem". Firmware updates are common with most audio/video electronics.

Clearly the whiners you reference are part of the "what can I get for free for complaining" crowd. Some are also part of the "attorney-lawsuit" crowd - in fact, a few have made their lame "class action" statements here on this site regarding equipment. They infiltrate and run rampant on threads and boards - complaining and sarcastic over and over. The interesting thing is that I've read the exact same type of comments in Dish and cable threads.

This is just a sad "illness" in our society - agree or else prepare to be verbally assaulted...and by the way, I want everything for free. Here are just a couple of recent cases in point:



And how about this exchange about the H20....


Things have gotten quite pathetic. These boards used to be great product and service informational resources, but they've been turned into "whine and gripe" sessions. It's sad really...

NOWHERE DID I SAY COMPLAIN TO GET FREE STUFF, STOP YOUR ASSUMPTIONS

AND LEARN TO READ THE CONTEXT OF THE DISCUSSION


AND I HATE TO INFORM YOU, THE PROBLEMS DIRECTV IS EXPERIENCING WITH THE R15 ARE NOT HICCUPS, THEY ARE MAJOR PROBLEMS - CAN NOT RECORD A SHOW RELIABLY IS PATHETIC, AND IS THE 1ST REASON FOR A DVR .... SO WHEN IT CAN NOT BE DONE, THAT IS NO HICCUP THATS A HHHUUGGEEEEEE PROBLEM

AND BY PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO ARE IN MASS IN AMERICA, WHO ARE NOT DETAIL PEOPLE, WHO DO NOT DOUBLE CHECK EVERYTHING, AND HAVE ALLOWED CORPORATIONS TO SCREW THEM OVER, ONCE YOU GIVE THEM AN INCH THEY WUILL TAKE A MILE .. IS GETTING WORSE, AND I FOR ONE, "OLD SCHOOL" WILL NOT STAND FOR IT, AND WILL ADDRESS THE COMPANYS NEGATIVELY UNTILL THE RIGHT THE SHIP ............. AND WHEN THEY DO GOOD I WILL PRAISE THEM

I MEAN 2 SAT PROVIDERS AND 50% OR MORE OF THEIR EQUIPMENT/INSTALLS/WORKERS/AND SO ON .. NOT BEING COMPETENT .. IS A DIRECT RESULT OF CUSTOMERS WHO DO NOT DEMAND THE BEST FROM THE START

 

[dragon002]

wow, moq,

a bit testy today?

 

[vurbano]

I'm with you completely. No REAL problems either, other than the short term audio nuisance on Dolby for HD locals - which they fixed in short order. I surely didn't even think of picking up the phone and ask for $100 off my service or 12 months of HBO either. Anyone who's had sophisticated equipment knows hiccups are normal, but not a "problem". Firmware updates are common with most audio/video electronics.

Clearly the whiners you reference are part of the "what can I get for free for complaining" crowd. Some are also part of the "attorney-lawsuit" crowd - in fact, a few have made their lame "class action" statements here on this site regarding equipment. They infiltrate and run rampant on threads and boards - complaining and sarcastic over and over. The interesting thing is that I've read the exact same type of comments in Dish and cable threads.

This is just a sad "illness" in our society - agree or else prepare to be verbally assaulted...and by the way, I want everything for free. Here are just a couple of recent cases in point:



And how about this exchange about the H20....


Things have gotten quite pathetic. These boards used to be great product and service informational resources, but they've been turned into "whine and gripe" sessions. It's sad really...

boo hoo

 

[Mr Tony]

no need to shout

 

[moqz1001]

Well said sir.

NOT WELL SAID SIR, PEOPLE LIKE YOU, WHO ALLOW CORPORATIONS, TO LET BECOME THE NORM OF INCOMPETENCE, AS THE ACCEPTED NORM OF SOCOETY ARE TO BLAME, PEOPLE WHO CAN NOT USE RATIONAL THING TO SOLVE THINGS ARE THE PROBLEM

 

[moqz1001]

wow, moq,

a bit testy today?

NOPE, JUST STATING FACTS

 

[Mr Tony]

modz

turn off your caps lock...no need to shout

 

[branchbouncer]

I love Dtv but I do not love the $500 for the HD DVR and 2 year HD commitment. My local cable charges zero for the HD DVR, I don't own it, if it breaks I have nothing out of pocket, and they are giving me half price on all services for the first year with no contract! That is another $500 I will be saving. :

I'm out! I'm taking one for the Team! Dtv has gotten to big for their britches! Lease-Smeesh! I'm sending a message they will have to hear! I called today to talk about cancelling and supposedly their computers are down for an upgrade. I wish I could do my computer upgrades in the middle of the day.

If they will give me the HD DVR free or cheap I will stay, if not its Churn and Burn baby! :neener

It's like the credit card companies, play one against the other and ride the wave until it breaks, then get on another wave! Viva competition!

Mike

When we moved to our new house and had many things to do,we had Adelphia installed,we had put our D* account in suspend mode.I had cable in the early 90's (with Cox)and it was a the worst few years of watching tv ever,when they went down it wasn't rain fade it was down,5 hours to maybe a day our so.Adelphia was here right on time,the installer went out of his way to do a fantastic job,we had to have all 6 drops checked,he replaced F connectors with new ones(first were installed were done by a scrimmping sub)did readings on all drops,changed out the old splitter,found that two of the drops needed to be amped(came by the next day and installed that)then hooked up the 4 SA 8300 HD DVR's,all for 49.95 install fee(tiped him 50.00 for such a good job)
This was only going to be a temp service though as we planed on taking D* out of suspend mode the begining of March.We started to think that maybe since this is a "NEW" house,we would try a "NEW" sat service,E*,with more HD.Contacted them,and a local installer,about having the service installed.Started right off the bat getting different stories as what we need.Dish says that we need two dishes,installer says that we need 1000.Installer says we can have 2 DVR's to feed the tv's but that only two would be HD the others would be SD.Dish says the same,but that all 4 would be HD,asked how I would feed the other two Tv's from the DVR and the responce was to run componet cables,right 40-50 feet from one and about the same for the other,it goes on and on for so long that I had to put them on hold so that i could get a shovel.Thats was enough for one day as I wanted to eat dinner before I went to sleep,said I would think about it and call at a later date.Got a call last night form Dish CSR(it has been a couple weeks since I talked to them)she was from India and spoke fairly well but I think that she spoke better than she understood,asked I could hold,was transfered to a "Super" who I assume was here in the states,tried to get me to go for the install up to the point when I told him I want what Adelphia had given me,4 HD DVR's and when the addition is done off the kitchen a 5th,His responce was"Cable is a better option for you,we can't give you 5 HD DVR's"-----------Thanks for your time.Now I do agree that both E*,D* have great service,probably slightly better than Adelphia,not by much,but these misleading stories,confusion,and limited equipment avalaibilty is crazy,I guess for now I will just have to keep Adelphia,at least there are 18 HD channels,until D* and or E* get this equipment/lease crap together
__________________
With D* since the USSB days

 

[Satmeister]

Well said sir.

Thanks. Somebody had to say it.

AND I HATE TO INFORM YOU....

No...you don't.

In your posts, you clearly enjoy professing to be an expert on everything. I've been a customer of both Dish and DirecTV for quite a few years going back to 1992. Based on your rants, you can't tell me anything I don't already know about them. The difference in your perspective is that I won't die of a stroke over my view of the world.

boo hoo

Just what I'd expect. Thanks for proving my original point.

Sure wish life could return to people helping people, instead of at each other's throats - but that's not going to happen obviously. What a huge waste of energy & time through all the negativity.

 

[Mr Tony]

Sure wish life could return to people helping people, instead of at each other's throats

A-MEN!!!

 

[vurbano]

Sure wish life could return to people helping people, instead of at each other's throats - but that's not going to happen obviously. What a huge waste of energy & time through all the negativity.

It can. Go help them and stop whining and hijacking a thread to complain about others complaining.

 

[dragon002]

It can. Go help them and stop whining and hijacking a thread to complain about others complaining.

 

[scotsmanron]

Thanks. Somebody had to say it.

No...you don't.

In your posts, you clearly enjoy professing to be an expert on everything. I've been a customer of both Dish and DirecTV for quite a few years going back to 1992. Based on your rants, you can't tell me anything I don't already know about them. The difference in your perspective is that I won't die of a stroke over my view of the world.

Just what I'd expect. Thanks for proving my original point.

Sure wish life could return to people helping people, instead of at each other's throats - but that's not going to happen obviously. What a huge waste of energy & time through all the negativity.

Amazing. In post 65 I get bashed for asking a question/making a statement. As Verbano said, if you want to help others do it and quit complaining yourself.