Charles Barkely was right

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I didn't make much of the Auburn hiring of Gene Chizik until I heard what Charles Barkely said yesterday on Dan LeBetard's radio show. I cannot think of 1 good reason why they hired him OVER Turner Gil...not one. I don't think they should have hired JUST a black coach, but of all the guys they interviewed.....it definately sounded like a one horse race.

Lobbying for Gill, alum Barkley says Auburn should have hired black coach

By Mark Schlabach

Updated: December 16, 2008, 4:32 PM ET

Former Auburn and NBA star Charles Barkley ripped the school he attended on Monday, saying the only reason the Tigers did not hire Buffalo's Turner Gill as the school's new football coach is because Gill is black.

Auburn on Saturday hired Iowa State's Gene Chizik, who had a 5-19 record in two seasons with the Cyclones. Chizik was the defensive coordinator at Auburn in 2004, when the Tigers finished 13-0 and ranked No. 2 in the country.

Chizik replaces former Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville, who won 85 games in 10 seasons but was forced to resign earlier this month.

"I think race was the No. 1 factor," said Barkley, who played basketball for three seasons at Auburn during the early 1980s. "You can say it's not about race, but you can't compare the two résumés and say [Chizik] deserved the job. Out of all the coaches they interviewed, Chizik probably had the worst résumé."

Gill, a former Nebraska quarterback, took over one of the country's worst programs at Buffalo three years ago. He guided the Bulls to an 8-5 record and their first MAC championship this season, upsetting previously unbeaten Ball State 42-24 in the Dec. 5 conference championship game.

The Bulls won 10 games in their first seven seasons at the Division I-A level. Gill guided Buffalo to 13 victories during the past two seasons combined.

"I'm just very disappointed," Barkley said. "I just thought Turner Gill would be the perfect choice for two reasons: He's a terrific coach and we needed to make a splash. I thought we had to do something spectacular to bring attention to the program. Clearly, if we'd hired a black coach, it would have created a buzz."

Barkley, who works as an NBA analyst for Turner Network Television, said he spoke with Gill before Gill interviewed with Auburn officials last week.

"We talked about the whole race thing in Alabama," Barkley said. "I told him it's there and it's going to be anywhere you go. I told him you can't not take the job because of racism. He was worried about being nothing more than a token interview. He was concerned about having a white wife. It's just very disappointing to me."

Chizik said Monday he understands the expectations as he takes over at Auburn and that there's only one way to quiet fans upset by his hiring.

"You gotta win," Chizik said during a news conference. A half-dozen or so times, Chizik confidently said he was the "right guy" for the job.

"Nobody's expectation that is a fan of Auburn University is higher than mine," Chizik said. "That sums it up. My expectations are very high. I understand that the people of this place, including myself, they want championships. That's my expectation of myself. That's what I take with me to sleep with every night."

The results at Iowa State weren't spectacular, yet Auburn athletic director Jay Jacobs said Chizik's plan for turning around the Cyclones was part of what got him the job.

"He was on path there at Iowa State to turn that program around in a positive way," said Jacobs. He called Chizik a "tireless recruiter" with a solid plan.

Five wins in two years got Chizik an offer of a two-year contract extension at Iowa State. He reportedly will receive a five-year contract worth about $2 million a year from Auburn, about double his former deal which included a $750,000 buyout.

Iowa State athletic director Jamie Pollard sounded upset to lose Chizik. He said Monday during a news conference in Ames that twice last week, Chizik assured him that he wouldn't dump the Cyclones for Auburn.

Pollard said that Iowa State's fans, staff and players "deserved better."

"He's got to reconcile in himself what he told all these players and what he told our administration and what he's doing now," Pollard said. "And if he can live with that, more power to him. I know Jamie Pollard couldn't have done that to this place."

Asked about Barkley's comments to ESPN, Jacobs said: "Well, my reaction is I was picking the best fit for Auburn."

Barkley, an 11-time NBA All-Star and two-time Olympic gold medal winner, said he served on Auburn's search committee for a new basketball coach after the 2003-04 season. Barkley said he told Auburn officials he would serve on the committee only if the school was ready to hire a black coach.

Barkley said he presented three African-American candidates for consideration: former Indiana coach Mike Davis, then-Virginia Commonwealth coach Jeff Capel and then-UAB coach Mike Anderson.

Barkley said all three candidates wanted to coach at Auburn. Instead, the Tigers hired then-Chattanooga coach Jeff Lebo, a white candidate. Lebo has a 61-68 record in his fifth season at Auburn.

Barkley said he was removed from Auburn's search committee before Lebo was hired.

"Out of all the basketball coaches they interviewed, they picked the only one who hadn't been to the NCAA tournament," Barkley said.

There are only four African-American coaches among 119 programs in the NCAA's Football Bowl Subdivision. Illinois offensive coordinator Mike Locksley was hired as New Mexico's coach last week; the others are Gill, Miami's Randy Shannon and Houston's Kevin Sumlin.

Two African-American coaches, Washington's Tyrone Willingham and Kansas State's Ron Prince, were fired during the 2008 season, and Mississippi State's Sylvester Croom resigned.

Barkley said he wanted Gill to become Auburn's coach because Auburn is a school where an African-American coach could be successful.

"My biggest problem with the black coaches is they're not getting jobs and they're getting [expletive] jobs when they are hired," Barkley said. "They're not getting good jobs. They're not getting jobs where they can be successful. That's why I wanted Turner to get the Auburn job. He could win consistently at Auburn. You can't win consistently at New Mexico. You can't win consistently at Kansas State. He could have won at Auburn."

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Would Turner Gil have been a better hire than Chizik? Probably

Is this as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be? Probably Not

Everyone is harping on 5 wins at Iowa State. Before that he was DC for the undefeated 2004 Auburn team, DC and assistant HC for the undefeated and national champion 2005 Texas team, and he coached two Thorpe award winners at Texas. I have no doubt that there is a good ole' boy network at Auburn with Bobby Lowder and the like, but I don't think this is some egregious sin against Turner Gil.
 
Turner Gil had two problems with the Auburn administration: he's black, and his wife is white. Double whammy!

If Bob Stoops ever leaves, we'll take him here at OU, even if he was a Cornhusker. :)
 
Would Turner Gil have been a better hire than Chizik? Probably

Is this as big of a deal as everyone is making it out to be? Probably Not

Everyone is harping on 5 wins at Iowa State. Before that he was DC for the undefeated 2004 Auburn team, DC and assistant HC for the undefeated and national champion 2005 Texas team, and he coached two Thorpe award winners at Texas. I have no doubt that there is a good ole' boy network at Auburn with Bobby Lowder and the like, but I don't think this is some egregious sin against Turner Gil.

He has done nothing as a Head Coach...ALL of his accomplishments were done as a assistant. The ONLY "accomplishment" he had as a head coach was coming off a 10 game LOSING streak!:eek: Turner Gil showed and proved he can turn a program around and win. Did anyone know that Buffalo even have a football program until Turner Gil??!! Like I said, I don't think they should have hired JUST a black coach....but can you think of a reason why she should have not been Gil?
 
Let me start out by saying that I am a big Auburn fan. I, like about 90% of the Auburn fan base wanted Turner Gill.

With that said, why did Syracuse not hire Gill??? And for who?? The oc for New Orleans Saints who played at Syracuse.

Auburn did to my knowledge interview at least 2 black coaches for the head job. The other being Rodney Gardner who played at Auburn.

Of all of the schools that had vacancies this year. I would like to know how many of these schools even interviewed a black coach for a head job.

With all of this said I do not think Chzik will be given the chance as he has to win right away to keep people in the stands. I do think if Auburn would have hired outside the Auburn family (which I believe was the reason for the hire instead color of his skin) anyone else without playing or coaching ties to Auburn would have been given several years to produce a winner.
 
To add another subplot to the whole story, it was reported that Tuner Gill was passed over, not because he was black, but because he had a white wife!


James Willis (who is black) who was on the current staff and a big recruiter has a white wife. Chizik has asked he and another coach to stay. Again. It has more to do with Auburn ties than the color of his skin.
 
James Willis (who is black) who was on the current staff and a big recruiter has a white wife. Chizik has asked he and another coach to stay. Again. It has more to do with Auburn ties than the color of his skin.

"Staff member" and head coach are two completely different things.

BTW, this report is coming from 2 fellow SEC coaches, not me.
 
Let me start out by saying that I am a big Auburn fan. I, like about 90% of the Auburn fan base wanted Turner Gill.

With that said, why did Syracuse not hire Gill??? And for who?? The oc for New Orleans Saints who played at Syracuse.

Auburn did to my knowledge interview at least 2 black coaches for the head job. The other being Rodney Gardner who played at Auburn.

Of all of the schools that had vacancies this year. I would like to know how many of these schools even interviewed a black coach for a head job.

With all of this said I do not think Chzik will be given the chance as he has to win right away to keep people in the stands. I do think if Auburn would have hired outside the Auburn family (which I believe was the reason for the hire instead color of his skin) anyone else without playing or coaching ties to Auburn would have been given several years to produce a winner.

I think the South is held under a bit more scrutiny than the north. I think history has a little bit to do with this, whether right or wrong. For this reason, SEC teams typically interview a few black guys that turn out to be nothing more than a token interview.
 
"Staff member" and head coach are two completely different things.

BTW, this report is coming from 2 fellow SEC coaches, not me.


LOL. Do you think they will say this to help their own school??

Willis would be the one going to talk to kids himself. A good man. That is all I care about.
 
LOL. Do you think they will say this to help their own school??

Willis would be the one going to talk to kids himself. A good man. That is all I care about.

Recruits are typically unseen by the general public. The head coach is the face of the team. The head coach has to answer to the AD, the school and the avid alumni. I don't really have to explain the difference between a recruit and a head coach, do I?
 
James Willis (who is black) who was on the current staff and a big recruiter has a white wife. Chizik has asked he and another coach to stay. Again. It has more to do with Auburn ties than the color of his skin.

Like I said, hiring a black coach for the sake of hiring a black coach does not make sense if he does not have the credentials. And who, of the guys interviewed had better credentials than Gil?
 
I think the South is held under a bit more scrutiny than the north. I think history has a little bit to do with this, whether right or wrong. For this reason, SEC teams typically interview a few black guys that turn out to be nothing more than a token interview.

damn good point HDD:up
 
Like I said, hiring a black coach for the sake of hiring a black coach does not make sense if he does not have the credentials. And who, of the guys interviewed had better credentials than Gil?

Actually, Tubberville had better credentials than any potential hire! I still don't understand his firing....
 
Like I said, hiring a black coach for the sake of hiring a black coach does not make sense if he does not have the credentials. And who, of the guys interviewed had better credentials than Gil?


I think you and the national media are missing the point of the hire. Chizik had Auburn ties. That is why he was hired.

Chizik would have been on the bottom of my list as other Auburn fans list.

Others on the list were Patterson, Johnson at Tech who just signed an extension today and the Wake Forrest coach. Mike Leach wanted the job but Auburn did not want him.

If you want a coach JUST on credentials then Gill would have been 3rd or 4th on the list. The hire was again. Auburn ties.

The only thing that scared me about Gill was that of Nebraska job opened up, he would bolt. Even though he was passed over that job last year.
 
Actually, Tubberville had better credentials than any potential hire! I still don't understand his firing....

It's call "big program-big expectations" -itis!! I mean gone are the days of going 10-2, 9-3 and calling that a "successful season"! Teams like USC, tOSU, UF, Alabama, LSU, Texas.....anything short of being AT LEAST in a BCS Bowl is almost considered a failure.
 
To be honest....this might actually mean something if Turner were qualified to be the head coach at Auburn - he is not. Of course, I don't feel Chizik or Turner should have been been considered for this position.

A much bigger concern for the college football world is Michigan's hiring and (hopefully) firing of Rodriguez. If Michigan leadership were wise, they would dump Rodriguez before the New Year. I estimate that Rodriguez took an 8-5 Michigan team and misled them to a 3-9 record season.
 
I think you and the national media are missing the point of the hire. Chizik had Auburn ties. That is why he was hired.

Chizik would have been on the bottom of my list as other Auburn fans list.

Others on the list were Patterson, Johnson at Tech who just signed an extension today and the Wake Forrest coach. Mike Leach wanted the job but Auburn did not want him.

If you want a coach JUST on credentials then Gill would have been 3rd or 4th on the list. The hire was again. Auburn ties.

The only thing that scared me about Gill was that of Nebraska job opened up, he would bolt. Even though he was passed over that job last year.
I agree with this.
 
To be honest....this might actually mean something if Turner were qualified to be the head coach at Auburn - he is not. Of course, I don't feel Chizik or Turner should have been been considered for this position.

A much bigger concern for the college football world is Michigan's hiring and (hopefully) firing of Rodriguez. If Michigan leadership were wise, they would dump Rodriguez before the New Year. I estimate that Rodriguez took an 8-5 Michigan team and misled them to a 3-9 record season.

Ok...I am curious, why do you thing he was NOT qualified? I understand you disliking of Rodriguez but what does Rodriguez hiring and firing have anything to do with this thread?:confused:
 

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