Channels mapping

[HDTVFanAtic]

ALL receivers have always shown them as a separate birds - what he WAS trying to say, is that some receivers show those 110 x-ponders as actual x-ponders 28-32, as opposed to the "moved" x-ponders of 8-12.

IMHO, I'm not entirely sure this is true - I do happen to have one of the first multisat IRD's (RCA480) & it's been awhile since I checked this. I'll hook it up & check it later & let everyone know.

My first generation to use 110 for HD RCA DCT-100 shows 110 as moved transponders to 119 - not separate.

My new H20 shows the 110W as a different satellite and has X's in the slot below the actual transponders.

Thus I am not sure how you can say ALL receivers have shown them as a separate bird - as I have already pointed out the RCA DCT-100 does not.

 

[HDTVFanAtic]

LyngSat.com ?

Sorry, I am not a mathematician who has studied lyngsat enough to calculate that - and I am sure others on satellitguys.us are not either.

Your posts seem to make it appear D* can only get roughly 27Mbps out of a transponder. Clearly E* can get a lot more than that.

Thus my question.

 

[Smith P.]

You need just K-5 grade for that - to compare DTV SR & FEC with same Dish QPSK transponders using Lyngsat tables. Yes, practically you're right. Check also BFG's HD table here.

 

[AntAltMike]

I stopped following the bandwidth crunch a long time ago, but I thought that DISH switched to 8PSK for its HDTV signals, which was supposed to get it 30% more data in the same bandwidth.

 

[Smith P.]

Usually Hokie and digiblur posting those numbers here.

 

[HDTVFanAtic]

You need just K-5 grade for that - to compare DTV SR & FEC with same Dish QPSK transponders using Lyngsat tables. Yes, practically you're right. Check also BFG's HD table here.

If someone has given you the formula, I am sure a third grader could do it.

However, if no one gives you the formula for adding fractions, one might be able to add 2+2 and still not be able to add fractions.

 

[Smith P.]

I recall Mike-DC05 (?) did post how to calculate bandwidth using SR, FEC, xPSK modulation. It was a couple years ago. Or more.

 

[HDTVFanAtic]

might want to check my join date above

 

[Smith P.]

Good point, but no real excuse - Search button still there.

 

[HDTVFanAtic]

Good point, but no real excuse - Search button still there.

Easier for you to post forumula

 

[Smith P.]

Yeah, DTV chaning the map pretty quickly. But most of core channels stay on same transponders. This new map pulled out some local channels with names, but many still keep generic. Will see if it could be solved.
I'm thinking if the numer of channel in range 9xx exist in EPG, then ppl from other regions could identify each one.

tpn1 - 12224:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 231,	90,	91,	0,	FOOD
 250,	110,	111,	0,	REAL
 263,	120,	121,	0,	LOGO
 269,	40,	41,	0,	HIST
 293,	60,	61,	0,	BABY
 302,	100,	101,	0,	NKTN
 309,	50,	51,	0,	GSN 
 325,	10,	11,	0,	SPKE
 326,	80,	81,	0,	GAC 
 327,	30,	31,	0,	CMT 
 335,	130,	131,	0,	VH1 
 378,	140,	141,	0,	NRB 
 490,	990,	0,	0,	DTV 
 596,	230,	231,	0,	TEN 
 813,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 842,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 847,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 854,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
[18 SIDs]

tpn2 - 12239:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 109,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 242,	50,	51,	52,	USA 
 265,	60,	61,	0,	A&E 
 278,	80,	81,	0,	DSC 
 491,	990,	0,	0,	DTV 
 593,	10,	11,	0,	PPV 
 595,	230,	231,	0,	PBTV
 700,	120,	121,	0,	 NFL
 814,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 817,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 851,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 866,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 878,	30,	31,	0,	GMC 
 996,	30,	31,	0,	GMC 
[14 SIDs]

tpn3 - 12253:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 140,	120,	121,	122,	PPV 
 145,	30,	31,	32,	PPV 
 147,	10,	11,	12,	PPV 
 149,	20,	21,	22,	PPV 
 150,	140,	141,	142,	PPV 
 151,	80,	81,	82,	PPV 
 156,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 158,	100,	101,	102,	PPV 
 161,	60,	61,	62,	PPV 
 163,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 165,	90,	91,	92,	PPV 
 170,	110,	111,	112,	PPV 
 172,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 722,	150,	151,	0,	NFL 
 723,	160,	161,	0,	NFL 
[15 SIDs]

tpn4 - 12268:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 921,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 922,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 923,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 924,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 925,	50,	51,	0,	LoCh
 926,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 927,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 928,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 929,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 930,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 931,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 932,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 933,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 934,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[14 SIDs]

tpn5 - 12282:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 144,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 152,	90,	91,	92,	PPV 
 155,	80,	81,	82,	PPV 
 171,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 174,	60,	61,	62,	PPV 
 176,	30,	31,	32,	PPV 
 177,	20,	21,	22,	PPV 
 180,	10,	11,	12,	PPV 
 724,	150,	151,	0,	NFL 
 725,	160,	161,	0,	NFL 
[10 SIDs]

tpn6 - 12297:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 108,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 122,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 207,	10,	11,	0,	ESN 
 208,	90,	91,	0,	ECL 
 261,	20,	21,	0,	LRW 
 276,	120,	121,	0,	NGC 
 299,	80,	81,	0,	NIK1
 301,	50,	51,	0,	TVLD
 366,	30,	31,	0,	CRNT
 374,	130,	131,	132,	BYU 
 550,	100,	101,	0,	IFC 
 610,	110,	111,	0,	CSTV
 628,	60,	61,	0,	FSPI
 809,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 844,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 850,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 856,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 995,	130,	131,	132,	SC68
[18 SIDs]

tpn7 - 12311:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 142,	80,	81,	82,	PPV 
 154,	90,	91,	92,	PPV 
 179,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 188,	60,	61,	62,	PPV 
 189,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 468,	10,	11,	0,	CBSW
 719,	20,	21,	0,	NFL 
[7 SIDs]

tpn8 - 12326:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 102,	130,	131,	0,	NMX 
 104,	130,	131,	0,	SMX 
 105,	130,	131,	0,	SMXI
 111,	130,	131,	0,	KMX 
 115,	130,	131,	0,	IAC 
 204,	20,	21,	0,	HLN 
 228,	50,	51,	0,	GEMS
 233,	80,	81,	0,	GEM 
 255,	30,	31,	0,	i   
 262,	40,	41,	0,	SOAP
 356,	10,	11,	0,	MNBC
 367,	100,	101,	0,	JTV 
 399,	10,	11,	0,	DTV 
 404,	60,	61,	62,	GALA
 480,	130,	131,	0,	ACT 
 482,	130,	131,	0,	IAC 
 597,	230,	231,	0,	JENA
 623,	120,	121,	122,	NESN
 624,	110,	111,	112,	FSNY
 654,	90,	91,	0,	FSBA
 720,	10,	11,	0,	NFL 
 832,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 835,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 838,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 845,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
[25 SIDs]

tpn9 - 12341:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 203,	130,	131,	0,	CRT 
 232,	80,	81,	0,	FINE
 236,	120,	121,	0,	E!  
 247,	10,	11,	12,	TBS 
 252,	60,	61,	62,	LIFE
 273,	40,	41,	0,	BRVO
 296,	50,	51,	52,	TOON
 605,	100,	101,	0,	GOLF
 621,	20,	21,	0,	MSG 
 622,	30,	31,	32,	YES 
 630,	110,	111,	0,	FSS 
 647,	90,	91,	0,	FSMW
 764,	20,	21,	0,	NHL 
 818,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 830,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 861,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[16 SIDs]

tpn10 - 12355:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 130,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 206,	100,	101,	0,	ESPN
 245,	90,	91,	92,	TNT 
 360,	110,	111,	0,	FNC 
 381,	10,	11,	12,	CBSW
 383,	20,	21,	22,	NBCW
 384,	50,	51,	52,	PBS 
 387,	30,	31,	32,	ABCW
 389,	40,	41,	42,	FOXW
 625,	80,	81,	0,	SNY 
 643,	60,	61,	0,	FSSW
 804,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 805,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 816,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 833,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 935,	120,	121,	0,	OR43
 938,	10,	11,	12,	LA2 
 939,	20,	21,	22,	LA4 
 941,	30,	31,	32,	LA7 
 943,	40,	41,	42,	LA11
[20 SIDs]

tpn11 - 12370:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 107,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 251,	110,	111,	0,	OXGN
 253,	80,	81,	0,	LMN 
 297,	10,	11,	12,	BOOM
 307,	90,	91,	0,	WGN 
 350,	50,	51,	0,	CSP1
 402,	60,	61,	62,	UNIV
 504,	20,	21,	22,	HBOW
 606,	30,	31,	0,	OUT 
 615,	120,	121,	0,	STS 
 638,	100,	101,	0,	FSCN
 652,	130,	131,	0,	FSW 
 653,	40,	41,	0,	FSPT
 803,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 821,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 822,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 824,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
[17 SIDs]

tpn12 - 12381:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 900,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 901,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 902,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 903,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 904,	50,	51,	0,	LoCh
 905,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 906,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 907,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 908,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 909,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 910,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 911,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 912,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 913,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[14 SIDs]

tpn13 - 12399:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 160,	30,	31,	32,	PPV 
 162,	20,	21,	22,	PPV 
 167,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 182,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 185,	10,	11,	12,	PPV 
 588,	230,	231,	232,	PPV 
 726,	150,	151,	0,	NFL 
 727,	160,	161,	0,	NFL 
[8 SIDs]

tpn14 - 12414:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 224,	20,	21,	0,	TVGC
 240,	100,	101,	0,	HSN 
 277,	60,	61,	0,	TRAV
 279,	90,	91,	0,	DHC 
 291,	110,	111,	0,	DIS2
 312,	40,	41,	0,	HALL
 321,	130,	131,	0,	WHT 
 330,	80,	81,	0,	BETJ
 331,	140,	141,	0,	MTV 
 369,	120,	121,	0,	DSTR
 379,	10,	11,	0,	RFD 
 422,	30,	31,	0,	EWTN
 594,	230,	231,	0,	CLPS
 802,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 825,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 836,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 839,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
[17 SIDs]

tpn15 - 12428:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 103,	80,	81,	0,	DTV 
 129,	60,	61,	62,	PPV 
 227,	30,	31,	0,	INFO
 340,	40,	41,	0,	AVC 
 362,	70,	71,	0,	TWC 
 370,	10,	11,	0,	SNBC
 608,	20,	21,	0,	VS  
 629,	50,	51,	0,	CSN 
 642,	30,	31,	0,	FSWI
 701,	120,	121,	122,	GMX1
 702,	90,	91,	92,	GMX2
[11 SIDs]

tpn16 - 12443:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 106,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 229,	110,	111,	0,	HGTV
 241,	80,	81,	0,	TV1 
 248,	100,	101,	0,	FX  
 287,	130,	131,	0,	MILT
 329,	50,	51,	0,	BET 
 341,	120,	121,	0,	ATM 
 368,	40,	41,	0,	FIT 
 376,	90,	91,	0,	NASA
 521,	60,	61,	62,	STZw
 609,	20,	21,	0,	ESPU
 620,	30,	31,	0,	FSNE
 632,	10,	11,	0,	SUN 
 668,	120,	121,	0,	CSNC
 784,	120,	121,	0,	ESPN
 808,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 820,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 827,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 848,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
[19 SIDs]

tpn17 - 12457:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 249,	90,	91,	0,	COM 
 266,	10,	11,	0,	BIO 
 280,	60,	61,	0,	TLC 
 345,	30,	31,	0,	USN 
 357,	20,	21,	0,	CNBW
 375,	100,	101,	0,	LINK
 377,	40,	41,	0,	TCT 
 522,	120,	121,	122,	SEDG
 607,	80,	81,	0,	SPD 
 613,	130,	131,	0,	FSC 
 641,	110,	111,	0,	FSNO
 649,	50,	51,	0,	FSAZ
 801,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 812,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 834,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 853,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[16 SIDs]

tpn18 - 12472:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 961,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 962,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 963,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 964,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 966,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 967,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 968,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 969,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 970,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 971,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 972,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 973,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 974,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[13 SIDs]

tpn19 - 12486:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 212,	120,	121,	0,	NFL 
 243,	20,	21,	0,	AS  
 244,	60,	61,	0,	SCFI
 254,	110,	111,	0,	AMC 
 284,	90,	91,	0,	SCI 
 285,	100,	101,	0,	DTMS
 295,	30,	31,	0,	SPRT
 339,	80,	81,	0,	Fuse
 371,	50,	51,	0,	TCC 
 372,	40,	41,	0,	TBN 
 373,	130,	131,	0,	WORD
 612,	10,	11,	0,	FUEL
 826,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 862,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 864,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 865,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[16 SIDs]

tpn20 - 12501:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 884,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 885,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 886,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 887,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 888,	50,	51,	0,	LoCh
 889,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 890,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 891,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 892,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 893,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 894,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 895,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 896,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 897,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[14 SIDs]

tpn21 - 12516:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 131,	20,	21,	22,	PPV 
 132,	40,	41,	42,	PPV 
 138,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 214,	90,	91,	0,	DTV 
 218,	990,	0,	0,	DTV 
 239,	110,	111,	0,	CSHP
 256,	120,	121,	122,	TCM 
 365,	80,	81,	0,	GTV 
 526,	30,	31,	32,	ENCR
 533,	60,	61,	0,	EWAM
 599,	230,	231,	0,	HUST
 637,	100,	101,	0,	FSOH
 828,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 831,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 840,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 846,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 977,	10,	11,	0,	BA54
[17 SIDs]

tpn22 - 12530:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 133,	50,	51,	52,	PPV 
 260,	120,	121,	0,	WE  
 294,	60,	61,	0,	KIDS
 300,	80,	81,	82,	NIK2
 537,	30,	31,	32,	SHO 
 547,	110,	111,	0,	FLIX
 592,	230,	231,	232,	PPV 
 601,	20,	21,	22,	NBA 
 634,	130,	131,	132,	FSFL
 636,	100,	101,	0,	FSD 
 645,	40,	41,	0,	FSRM
 659,	90,	91,	0,	RSNa
 751,	100,	101,	0,	NBA1
 819,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 829,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 837,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 859,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[17 SIDs]

tpn23 - 12545:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 101,	110,	111,	0,	FREE
 201,	50,	51,	0,	DTV 
 209,	10,	11,	0,	ESN2
 220,	100,	101,	0,	DTV 
 225,	80,	81,	0,	REEL
 282,	140,	141,	0,	APL 
 334,	110,	111,	0,	FREE
 355,	60,	61,	0,	CNBC
 498,	100,	101,	0,	DTV 
 520,	30,	31,	32,	STRZ
 523,	20,	21,	0,	SBLK
 529,	40,	41,	0,	EWST
 580,	110,	111,	112,	FREE
 600,	100,	101,	0,	DTV 
 640,	130,	131,	0,	CSNC
 644,	120,	121,	0,	ALT 
 795,	100,	101,	0,	DTV 
 800,	110,	111,	0,	FREE
 852,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 855,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 858,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 860,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
[22 SIDs]

tpn24 - 12559:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 135,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 292,	60,	61,	62,	TDIS
 626,	90,	91,	0,	MASN
 705,	10,	11,	0,	NFL 
 706,	20,	21,	0,	NFL 
 710,	40,	41,	0,	NFL 
 713,	30,	31,	0,	NFL 
 714,	100,	101,	0,	NFL 
 716,	120,	121,	0,	NFL 
 717,	80,	81,	0,	NFL 
 823,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 843,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 863,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 867,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[14 SIDs]

tpn25 - 12574:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 119,	30,	31,	0,	PPV 
 333,	90,	91,	0,	MTV2
 351,	80,	81,	0,	CSP2
 398,	120,	121,	0,	DTV 
 703,	130,	131,	0,	RZC 
 704,	30,	31,	0,	NFL 
 707,	10,	11,	0,	NFL 
 708,	20,	21,	0,	NFL 
 709,	60,	61,	0,	NFL 
 711,	50,	51,	0,	NFL 
 712,	120,	121,	0,	NFL 
 715,	40,	41,	0,	NFL 
 753,	10,	11,	0,	NBA3
 841,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 868,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
[15 SIDs]

tpn26 - 12588:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 979,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 980,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 981,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 982,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 983,	50,	51,	0,	LoCh
 984,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 985,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 986,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 987,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 988,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 989,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 990,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 991,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 992,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[14 SIDs]

tpn27 - 12603:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 202,	90,	91,	0,	CNN 
 286,	100,	101,	0,	HOM 
 290,	80,	81,	0,	DIS1
 298,	10,	11,	0,	NOG 
 337,	50,	51,	0,	VH1C
 354,	120,	121,	0,	G4  
 501,	20,	21,	22,	HBO 
 528,	60,	61,	0,	ELOV
 532,	110,	111,	0,	EACT
 538,	30,	31,	32,	SHO2
 539,	40,	41,	42,	SHO3
 544,	130,	131,	0,	TMC 
 810,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
 811,	0,	200,	0,	XM  
 870,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
 872,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
[16 SIDs]

tpn28 - 12618:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 944,	10,	11,	0,	LoCh
 945,	20,	21,	0,	LoCh
 946,	30,	31,	0,	LoCh
 947,	40,	41,	0,	LoCh
 948,	50,	51,	0,	LoCh
 949,	60,	61,	0,	LoCh
 950,	80,	81,	0,	LoCh
 951,	90,	91,	0,	LoCh
 952,	100,	101,	0,	LoCh
 953,	110,	111,	0,	LoCh
 954,	120,	121,	0,	LoCh
 955,	130,	131,	0,	LoCh
 956,	140,	141,	0,	LoCh
 957,	150,	151,	0,	LoCh
[14 SIDs]

tpn29 - 12632:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 467,	10,	11,	0,	CBSE
 469,	20,	21,	0,	NBCE
[2 SIDs]

tpn30 - 12647:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 100,	120,	121,	0,	DTV 
 116,	130,	131,	0,	DTV 
 125,	80,	81,	82,	PPV 
 200,	120,	121,	0,	DTV 
 234,	140,	141,	0,	DTV 
 258,	40,	41,	0,	FMC 
 308,	60,	61,	0,	SLTH
 500,	120,	121,	0,	DTV 
 502,	90,	91,	92,	HBO2
 505,	20,	21,	22,	HB2W
 507,	10,	11,	12,	HBOF
 508,	50,	51,	52,	HBFW
 512,	30,	31,	32,	MAX 
 545,	110,	111,	0,	TMCw
 549,	100,	101,	0,	SUND
 879,	0,	190,	0,	XM  
[16 SIDs]

tpn31 - 12661:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 123,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 311,	80,	81,	0,	FAM 
 380,	10,	11,	12,	CBSE
 382,	20,	21,	22,	NBCE
 386,	30,	31,	32,	ABCE
 388,	40,	41,	42,	FOX 
 527,	100,	101,	102,	ENCw
 542,	90,	91,	92,	EXTR
 579,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 598,	230,	231,	0,	XCSS
 604,	130,	131,	132,	PPV 
 631,	110,	111,	0,	SS  
 651,	50,	51,	0,	FSNW
 656,	60,	61,	0,	CSNW
 880,	10,	11,	12,	NY2 
 881,	20,	21,	22,	NY4 
 882,	40,	41,	42,	NY5 
 883,	30,	31,	32,	NY7 
[18 SIDs]

tpn32 - 12676:
 SID	VPID	APID	APID2	Name
----	----	----	-----	----
 119,	250,	251,	0,	PPV 
 230,	60,	61,	0,	DIY 
 264,	50,	51,	0,	BBCA
 271,	80,	81,	0,	HInt
 317,	110,	111,	0,	QVC 
 353,	20,	21,	0,	BTV 
 426,	120,	121,	122,	GOL 
 503,	10,	11,	12,	HBOS
 513,	30,	31,	32,	MMAX
 514,	40,	41,	42,	MaxW
 530,	90,	91,	0,	EMYS
 531,	140,	141,	0,	EDRA
 540,	130,	131,	132,	SHOw
 602,	100,	101,	0,	TVG 
 614,	120,	121,	122,	GOL 
 765,	250,	251,	0,	NHL 
 806,	0,	180,	0,	XM  
 857,	0,	170,	0,	XM  
[18 SIDs]


Sunday, December 3, 2006 at 23:24.29 GMT

 

[Smith P.]

I see many differences beetween the data and DBSForum table; perhaps those data taken from opposite coast and by different equipment in different time.

 

[digiblur]

I stopped following the bandwidth crunch a long time ago, but I thought that DISH switched to 8PSK for its HDTV signals, which was supposed to get it 30% more data in the same bandwidth.

DirecTV is running around 30mbps per transponder just like E* on their QPSK transponders. This is from the muxes I've looked at on 101, 110, and 119.

And yes, E* gets about 40mbps on their 8PSK transponders.

 

[AntAltMike]

And last one for 119W.

tpn27 - 12603:
 SID VPID APID APID2 Name
---- ---- ---- ----- ----
 425, 10, 11, 12, FSE 
 616, 10, 11, 0, FSE 
 412, 20, 21, 0, MEXI
 405, 30, 31, 0, TELE
 406, 40, 41, 0, TELW
 418, 50, 51, 0, MEX 
 410, 60, 61, 0, MUN2
 455, 80, 81, 0, CTV9
 450, 90, 91, 92, JADE
 428, 100, 101, 0, POR3
 427, 110, 111, 0, TYC 
 424, 120, 121, 0, NDTV
 875, 0, 170, 0, XM  
 876, 0, 180, 0, XM  
 871, 0, 190, 0, XM  
 874, 0, 200, 0, XM  
 492, 990, 0, 0, DTV 
[17 SIDs]

tpn28 - 12618:
 SID VPID APID APID2 Name
---- ---- ---- ----- ----
 100, 10, 11, 0, DTV 
 466, 10, 11, 0, HDN 
 476, 20, 21, 0, ES2H
 563, 0, 170, 0, XM  
 564, 0, 180, 0, XM  
 493, 990, 0, 0, DTV 
[6 SIDs]
Thursday, November 23, 2006 at 19:35.13 GMT

Notice that, in this channel map, DirecTV's 119 satellite, odd transponder test channel's (492) source is transponder 27 and its evens (493) test source is transponder 28. I had thought that all five of DirecTV's odd numbered transponders in this slot were going to be operated as spot beams, which would have made it an inappropriate transponder for a universal test channel, but upon inspection of the entire transponder 27 channel program list, it looks like it is now carrying all national,and therefore CONUS, programming.

Does anyone know if transponder 27 had previously been operated as a spot beam? In DirecTV's 101 slot, they have 38 transponders of uplink capacity that are downlinked 44 times at a total of six different spotbeam transponder frequencies. In the 119 slot, they have 11 transponders but can uplink to them from three different sites, meaning they can uplink 33 transponders, so if seven are now CONUS down, then the remaining 26 are being spread an unknown number of times among four spot transponder frequency beams. I guess the ratios are similar, but we don't have as much information regarding the 119 spot beams as we so the 101 spot beams because the DBS hobbyist/enthusiasts who had collaborated to figure out just what DirecTV was doing with its 101 spot beams were not sufficiently motivated to do the same thing when 119 went into operation.


The test transponders for Sat 101 test channels 490 and 491 are transponders 1 and 2, respectively. The test source for Sat C test channel 494 is actual transponder 30, which, due to non-standard intermediate frequency shifting, is "seen" as transponder 10 on many test regimens.