I have calmed down from a previous rant about poor Dish installer experience. I am comfortable with setting up my own equipment. I would be a new dish customer. I want to buy the receiver and dish to get Dish HD. Is this still possible, and if it is, I am looking at the vip211 (don't need dvr). What dish would I need to get? Also, when buying, are they outright yours, or are they still considered Dish property. I asked this, because I bought a Directv receiver new once, and they tried to tell me it would still need a lease fee. Thanks for any input.