Battlestar Galactica -- Season 4

[Foxbat]

It was a frustrating episode for me too. Not that it was bad, but that it did not answer any questions. 2 episodes/3 hours left to answer everything and tie it all up... What is going to happen, the last 5 minutes someone walks in confesses to everything gives all the answers and the show ends?

Something tells me that everyone here should be familiar with the following literary concept: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_ex_machina"]Deus ex machina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Wiktionary-logo-en.svg" class="image"><img alt="Wiktionary-logo-en.svg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f8/Wiktionary-logo-en.svg/16px-Wiktionary-logo-en.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/f/f8/Wiktionary-logo-en.svg/16px-Wiktionary-logo-en.svg.png[/ame].

You know, the pun ("god from a machine") of the Cylons creating the "one true god" who actually turns out to have been orchestrating everything from behind the scenes would probably be as bad as it gets.

Okay, who else had a "V'ger" flashback when Boomer's Viper exited hyperspace and flew into the Cylon colony? Minus the close-ups of "Oooo" and "Aaaa" expressions, thank goodness. And while I rifting on old Sci-Fi movies, I had the feeling that the vitals monitors in Sick Bay were modeled on the information displays from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

 

[primestar31]

Maybe the Kara on Earth is the clone. Maybe it wasnt even a living clone. Considering how badly decomposed the body was, who knows?

One thing we know for SURE now, is that she is NOT a Cylon!

Take what Baltar said as gospel, which was: "We know she isn't a Cylon, they have all been revealed".

That's just the way the writers have been throwing out the clues, like Ellen being the final 5, 5th Cylon.

So ok, Starbuck:

1: She's NOT human.
2: She's NOT cylon, or a cylon hybrid. Even Hera checks as a Cylon, even though she's supposed to be a hybrid.

What is she?

Regardless of how she was "cloned" or brought back, you guys keep forgetting over and over, that she also came back in a BRAND NEW VIPER!

Vipers can't be cloned in a vat.

So, my theory: "Somebody" is "running the show" in the background. Be it the "gods" or something like the whole show will ultimately turn out to be a giant VIDEO GAME, Or gods help us: the infamous dreaded "dream sequence"!

Don't forget, RDM is on record in his blog, of saying he LOVED the ending to the Soprano's, and wished he had thought of it FIRST.

I'm betting he's going to pull out some all-time CHEAT at the end, and have all of us pissed off, (or brain-fried, like watching Pink Floyd "The wall" video while high on Vicodin). I'll bet money, that he has come up with some way to top the Soprano's final episode. At least in his mind...

So, there's only 2 ways I think this whole thing will end:

1: We are going to be blown away and LOVE IT.
2: We are going to think it's the biggest pile of crap ever, and want his head on a stick.

I don't think there will be anything or anybody in-between after the last show airs.

3 left, let's see how it goes...

 

[dfergie]

Check out Bears Blog Bear’s Battlestar Blog Blog Archive BG4: “Islanded in a Stream of Stars” & Maureen Ryans latest 'Battlestar Galactica': 'Islanded in a Stream of Stars' | The Watcher
Both have food for thought on the latest episode...

 

[Sammy033]

Vipers can't be cloned in a vat.

Not even in a really big one?

If Hera is controlling everything in some way it would have to mean that she is the one true god. For some reason I never pictured God as a brunette with curls. Although I did picture God looking something like Alanis Morisssette. Oh wait, that was a movie.

As for endings on other shows, many people hate the ending for The Prisoner but it is one of my favs even though it didnt explain a damn thing. We still dont truly know who #1 is (I hope the remake doesnt try to explain that either). From what I understand the BBC switchboards were lit up by all kinds of people complaining that the ending didnt give them what they wanted. Oh well. Great endings arent made my explaining everything. They are made by great acting and storytelling.

 

[theoak]

Maybe the Kara on Earth is the clone. Maybe it wasnt even a living clone. Considering how badly decomposed the body was, who knows?

So, clone her then put it in the original viper. Send it off to Earth via a base ship. Hold on to Kara, do whatever you are going to do over the next couple of months, and send her back in the new viper. Now... why bother with such a thing is beyond me. Also, it would presuppose that Cavil knew where Earth was to begin with and know where to send the viper.

Cavil was the first clone made by the 5. I "suspect" that the 5 would have told him where Earth was. I suspect this is how Cavil was able to catch up with the RTF (rag tag fleet) and pretty much destroy them (the RTF) until one of the cylon raiders sensed one of the final 5 were there. I think this caught Cavil off gaurd as this was programming obviously put in place by the 5 that he was not aware of. This is why he was so adamant about reprogramming them.

I think to a degree Cavil let them get to Earth because:

1. To blow away the moral of the RTF.
2. To blow away the moral of the cylon defectors.
3. So 1 and 2 above could suffer more.
4. It is easier to destroy your enemy if you know where they are. So why not let them get there?

Kara is a cylon or half breed.

However, as Ellen stated an episode or two back ... "someone" is manipulating things. "Someone" activated the 5. "Someone" taught Kara how to play the song. "Someone" might have even cloned/resurrected Kara.

Hopefully we find out who this "someone" is ... :up

 

[Foxbat]

theoak, one of the Sci-Fi/Fantasy authors I read used the following philosophy:

To truly hurt someone, take the thing that they love. After they have grieved, give it back to them, broken.

However, the problem with that is the F5 knew Earth was toast. Of course, they don't remember because Cavil didn't want them to know who they were when he placed them in the Colonial fleet. Anders remembering "everything" seems like a slip-up on Cavil's part, unless he was going to trigger their full memories at some point to deliver the full impact of his plan. If that's true, then maybe the F5 should have been trying to reactivate their full memories. (Boot to the head!)

Resurrection: The Colonial fighters have destroyed two Resurrection centers, the smaller ship in season two, and the hub in this season. I find it incredibly unlikely that those two ships were the only two places that Cylons could resurrect. We see the ginormous Cylon Colony which must have millions upon millions of Cylons, yet you're telling me that any accidental deaths on the colony would cause the Cylon to be resurrected untold light-years away at the Hub? That seems very unlikely. And besides, didn't the Cylons hint that there is a practical limit as to how far away they could be from the resurrection ship/hub?

Finally, the downloading must use some sort of FTL communications, or else you’re waiting hours/days/months/years/centuries for the Dearly Departed to resurrect. If the F5 had the means to create resurrection technology, they must have had a form of long-range FTL communications. It seems odd that they wouldn't also have FTL drives as well.

 

[long_time_DNC]

Prior to the rez hub being destroyed, it was jumping along with the RTF in order to stay in rez range for the known models of cylons within the fleet. Presumably, Cavil also knew (the entire time) who the F5 are...he just never told anyone and didn't want anyone else to know (hence the boxing of the Deanna line).

So, there is a definite limit to the rez range of cylons and I don't think that the rez tech used any sort of "sub-space" or FTL communications. I think it was some sort of real-time (186k miles per second) transmission. Meaning that even if the rez hub were 300 million miles from the RTF (likely well out of dradus range), it'd only take 24-30 minutes to download/rez. Not a big deal in the scheme of things.

The cylon colony likely doesn't have a rez hub in it...otherwise, Cavil wouldn't care so much about getting Ellen to build rez tech again...unless that was some game he was playing to get Boomer to take Ellen to the RTF and snatch Hera... We get three hours (plus maybe a movie) to get the answers to all this...

 

[dfergie]

Pretty cool article in the USAToday ...

 

[Sammy033]

There are thousands of movies in 'development' in Hollywood. Some get actual studio support and may be on fast tracks. Others might just be in a small circle of friends. But in this case this feature film could just be some people cashing in and trying to get interest for their own project.

 

[dfergie]

ScifiHD
Battlestar Galactica: The Last Frakkin Special 10 pm 3.16

 

[dfergie]

Q&A: Ron Moore on 'Battlestar' series finale

Ron Moore is on the verge of joining a rarefied group of showrunners who have successfully pulled off the most ambitious of TV formats: the heavily serialized drama. Part 1 of the series finale of his Peabody Award-winning reimagination of "Battlestar Galactica" on Sci Fi Channel airs tonight.

Source & Rest of Article: THRfeed.com

 

[long_time_DNC]

Friday, the 13th of March... The beginning of the end...

 

[dfergie]

Hard to believe, one more episode... and I think it's going to be a doozy...

 

[long_time_DNC]

This was one heck of a setup for the finale'! I think it's going to be an intense 2-hours!

 

[Jimmy 440]

It looks to be a barn burner I hope !

 

[long_time_DNC]

I was just sitting here watching it again...couldn't believe what I heard! Did Scifi get away with a real one?

Spoiler

Balter was chewing out his dad (or vice-versa) and Gaius turned around, put his hand to his forehead and said "I need this...I need this like I need a f***ing hole in the head."

Did anyone else hear that or was it just me? I backed it up and played it, listening very carefully (and rather loudly) several times and heard it that way each time. I was rather surprised...and then I laughed...

 

[Pepper]

Frankly, it surprises me that they "get away with it" every week. For that matter I'm surprised they "got away with it" back in the seventies.

Spoiler

It's still a four letter word beginning with "F" and ending with "K", pronounced very similar to the real word, and has the exact same meanings and inflections.

The intent is there, the meaning is obvious, they "get away with it" on a technicality.

 

[Foxbat]

I was just sitting here watching it again...couldn't believe what I heard! Did Scifi get away with a real one?

Spoiler

Balter was chewing out his dad (or vice-versa) and Gaius turned around, put his hand to his forehead and said "I need this...I need this like I need a f***ing hole in the head."

Did anyone else hear that or was it just me? I backed it up and played it, listening very carefully (and rather loudly) several times and heard it that way each time. I was rather surprised...and then I laughed...

That's what I thought, too. I even fired up the Closed Captioning, but it's almost like this episode isn't CC'd. (It is running later on).

When this episode started, I thought to myself, "Oh boy, I can see the blogosphere now... People are going to be peeessed!" Is it all going to be about Caprica?

 

[Pepper]

So, those flashback scenes, I guess that gives a pretty good idea what the new series is going to look like.

 

[dfergie]

Watching parts of it again...

Spoiler

surprised Baltar didn't cross, looks like racetrack and skulls joined also