Another retrans fight. This has gotten very old

[gdodd12]

I don't get your premise. If you can stream NBC online, just do that now while the dispute is happening.

Because that costs money per month. I might as well get rid of dish instead of paying twice for nbc.

 

[ChadT41]

But you don't pay for NBC. You pay for a package, that currently has NBC included.

 

[dare2be]

Where does it cost money on NBC.com? I can play any video on their site, including classics, for free.

 

[Tampa8]

Because that costs money per month. I might as well get rid of dish instead of paying twice for nbc.

First, DISH will very likely give you a credit for FAR more than the cost of the one local you will lose for a short time. Second, as best I can tell NBC online is free.

 

[ChadT41]

He must be talking about CBS

 

[Mr Tony]

In Minneapolis its KARE11 (NBC)

If it does get pulled, I wonder what NBC they will import in Mankato? Mankato is a 1 station market (CBS main/FOX sub) so they import ABC & NBC from Minneapolis. Dish IS allowed (in this circumstance only) to import a different neighboring affiliate if the imported affiliate gets pulled. Common sense would be KTTC Rochester, MN. But knowing Dish I see Duluth is on same spotbeam...so they will probably import KBJR to them (which is 250 miles away).

Oh I see Dish has their head up their ass again in decisions. Not only did they turn off KARE 11 for Mankato folks already...they gave them......WHO from Des Moines, IA? REALLY?? Why not Duluth (which is on same spotbeam)....why not Rochester, MN?
(the other is Preque Isle, ME who is getting a NY station...I guess no choice as both NBC affiliates in Maine are Tegna stations)

New Uplinks / Mappings – Channels Available
6702 WHO (11 Local) DES MOINES, IA (NBC) SV* added to 110° 20s24 (South Iowa) (SD Mankato, MN market Hidden) AVAILABLE VOD Link VOD Network Name: nbc
5182 WNYT (2 HD Local) ALBANY, NY (NBC) SV* added to 61.5° 20s50 (E New York) (HD Presque Isle, ME market Hidden) AVAILABLE OTA Mapping (2-01) – VOD Link VOD Network Name: nbc
6732 WNYT (2 Local) ALBANY, NY (NBC) SV* added to 110° 4s4 (WMassachusetts) (SD Presque Isle, ME market Hidden) AVAILABLE VOD Link VOD Network Name: nbc

Uplinks Removed
6702 KARE (11 Local) MINNEAPOLIS, MN (NBC) SV* removed from 110° 4s28 (Central Minnesota) (SD Mankato, MN market Hidden)
5182 WLBZ (2 HD Local) BANGOR, ME (NBC) SV* removed from 61.5° 32s1 (Maine) (HD Presque Isle, ME market Hidden)
6732 WLBZ (2 Local) BANGOR, ME (NBC) SV* removed from 110° 25s8 (North Maine) (SD Presque Isle, ME market Hidden)

 

[Tampa8]

Bet the subscribers don't care all that much. For local news the have their other locals, and they don't miss the Network shows.

 

[ChadT41]

If an imported station, does Dish reserve that right to make that change?

 

[Hall]

Bet the subscribers don't care all that much. For local news the have their other locals, and they don't miss the Network shows.

You'd be surprised about that. Many people have their "favorite" local station and some even refuse to watch the others - based on what I've seen on their Facebook pages when there is an outage or contract dispute.

 

[ChadT41]

You'd be surprised about that. Many people have their "favorite" local station and some even refuse to watch the others - based on what I've seen on their Facebook pages when there is an outage or contract dispute.

HA. That makes me think about something I see everytime. There is 4 locals. One goes down, such as what may happen tomorrow. There is a storm in the area, and they say now they have no way of getting updates about the storm. When asked what about the other three they always start getting defensive or just stop responding all together. It is a battled moot point that has no logical retort.

 

[dvrexpander]

Meh none of them effect me.. damn I was hoping to get some free cinemax and showtime again

 

[Mr Tony]

Bet the subscribers don't care all that much. For local news the have their other locals, and they don't miss the Network shows.

Betcha they do. In Mankato there is only one other "voice" and that is KEYC. Mankato is a CBS main/FOX subchannel market. So their newscasts on both CBS 12 and FOX Mankato are pretty much the same stories

 

[Mr Tony]

If an imported station, does Dish reserve that right to make that change?

If a station is imported due to a short market yes they can import something else to replace that (soon to be) missing network affiliate. This is the ONLY example where Dish CAN import a different affiliate.

 

[ChadT41]

That's what I was referencing.

 

[Mr Tony]

You'd be surprised about that. Many people have their "favorite" local station and some even refuse to watch the others - based on what I've seen on their Facebook pages when there is an outage or contract dispute.

so true.
My grandma is like that. One time I turned on channel 11 news (NBC) at 6:00 when I was visiting and she yells from the bedroom "Why the hell isnt the TV on channel 4?"

 

[Mr Tony]

That's what I was referencing.

umm ok. Did you want confirmation that DIsh is indeed doing this? They did it during the Sinclair outage. Whats interesting is they already changed the affiliate even though the one isnt off due to a dispute yet

 

[ChadT41]

Yup. That's what I'm looking for. Can they take the channel down in the short market and replace it with something else, by choice, while negotiations take place(and after if they choose)

 

[whitewolf8214]

More Than 130 Stations May Go Dark In Contract Fights with DirecTV, Dish and U-verse https://www.yahoo.com/tv/s/more-130-stations-may-dark-contract-fights-directv-144407675.html

The increase in the number of station blackouts due to retrans battles in markets large and small has prompted the FCC to launch a review of the retransmission consent rule, which mandates private negotiations between station operators and MVPDs.MVPDs have lobbied for the FCC to take steps to reduce the threat of station blackouts during negotiations. FCC chairman Tom Wheeler was vocal on the issue in August when 129 stations owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group went dark on Dish Network. Wheeler ordered FCC staffers to bring the sides together to bring a quick end to the largest station blackout in history, which wound up lasting less than 24 hours.On Wednesday, each of the three broadcast groups said negotiations were continuing in the hopes of avoiding a shutdown.“We continue to work hard to reach a deal with DirecTV before our agreement expires today at 11:59p ET,” Media General said in a statement. “Our stations are important assets to the local community. We only want what is fair, so we can continue to serve our viewers.”DirecTV also said negotiations were continuing. U-verse and DirecTV have become corporate cousins through AT&T’s recent acquisition of the satcaster, although U-verse and DirecTV remain separate entities.“We are working with Tribune to reach a fair deal for our customers and keep Tribune on the air,” AT&T said in a statement. “Tribune is demanding an increase in rates that we believe is unreasonable and unfair for our customers. We intend to resolve this matter quickly for our customers.”

 

[ChadT41]

Hate government getting involved in most things, but I hope this leads to something really good. stupid to care about, I know, but just something I have followed for a couple years.

 

[Mr Tony]

Yup. That's what I'm looking for. Can they take the channel down in the short market and replace it with something else, by choice, while negotiations take place(and after if they choose)

Yes they can but I thought they couldn't do it until the station actually was pulled. Not before