America's everything package went up to 126.99 are they for real ? after they cut several channels

[lparsons21]

I've been noticing how close the pricing between D* and E* is at the full tier.

D* gets $129.99 for their Premier pack which includes all the premiums and the Sports package add-on.

E* gets $126.99 for their AEP which has all the premiums, but not the Multi-Sports package add-on. If you add it, then AEP is substantially higher than Premier.

While I'm not a big sports fan, I think the sports package should certainly be in the AEP. BB@Home not so much, as D* also doesn't include their HD Extra package in Premier.

Of course, the big disadvantage of both of them can and often does, mean that some deals on Premiums don't show up on your account.


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[Tampa8]

I'm not disagreeing, but would need to know is the Direct sports package reasonably equal to/better/not as good as the DISH package?

(Btw I do think an add on like the sports package is where DISH can charge more than it has to in order to make a profit. It isn't something most are going to need, so more of a luxury.)

 

[rvvaquero]

These companies are very advanced in their package arrangements. They know, for example, that a person who watches Channel A will also want Channel H, so they place these two channels on different package levels. Very few of us could be satisfied with 40 channels, not because we watch more than 40, but because they've arranged them so we have to buy 150 to get the ones we like.

I've had Dish for many years. I watch about 10 channels total. To get those 10, I have to buy the top 250. Dish knows this, they've created their packages based on this.

I would bet that if Dish offered an A la Carte programming option and charged $4 per channel, many customers could pick their channels and come out cheaper. That's why you won't see such until right before the satellite/cable industry starts to fade into history. JMO

 

[satjay]

A bit of topic but we were 250 household and I downgraded to 120+ really the only channel my daughter misses is diy but she can get her home improvement fix from HGTV.

 

[Teehar]

To the op, either call loyalty, or drop a tier or 2 to make up the difference in the increase . Its about all you can do.

As for Dish being the low price leader, that no longer rings true in several cases.If they are gonna charge as much as dtv then they should offer as much as dtv.What I don't understand is sunday ticket, for the last 12 years Dish has stated that it woukd be cost prohibitive, yet even without it, they charge as much as dtv.Go figure.

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[Hall]

These companies are very advanced in their package arrangements. They know, for example, that a person who watches Channel A will also want Channel H, so they place these two channels on different package levels.

That is probably much more true than people realize.

 

[whitewolf8214]

to SatelliteGuys!!

 

[ctrenkamp]

Should be able to get BB@HOME for half price

 

[MikeD-C05]

I've said it before and I will say it again. DISH should offer customers(New and existing) the right to buy outright there joeys and or super joey, so they can escape some of the fees. This would give DISH the money up front that they paid to give the customer the equipment and they could still charge the dvr fee per hopper. This would mean that the customer would get a real bargain and a monthly savings in their bills. Would also mean that customers could stand the price hikes a little longer, since their bills wouldn't be any higher than say the $12.00 dvr fee. This would also grow DISH as a company because they could advertise the fact in commercials and they would gain more subscribers who want to save money over the competition. More subscribers means more monthly revenue for the company, which means they can use all those subscribers as a bargaining chip in negotiations with the channels themselves ,for keeping their price hikes lower. This means a better deal that DISH can negotiate with the channel companies, because of the sheer amount of subs. This all would help keep DISH the lower priced competition ,which they have been saying for years now and a stand out against the competition and they would gain all those new subs ,who want to save that monthly fees. Not to mention all the equipment that Echostar would sell to DISH because of new subs who want to buy their joeys/superjoeys, in order to save the monthly fee. All in all, a great way to start the new year with a new campaign that will build more new subs, build more revenue, more bargaining power with channels themselves and sell more equipment for Charlie's other company Echostar. DISH needs to shake it up a bit and this would definitely do it and they could grow their company at the same time.

 

[Yespage]

A bit of topic but we were 250 household and I downgraded to 120+ really the only channel my daughter misses is diy but she can get her home improvement fix from HGTV.

Really? I though HGTV turned into a realty channel. Much like how Food Network is about theme and reality shows instead of actual cooking programs.

 

[satjay]

Still some home improvement shows on there

 

[Scherrman]

Really? I though HGTV turned into a realty channel. Much like how Food Network is about theme and reality shows instead of actual cooking programs.

HGTV is one of those channels that actually works well as a reality TV show though. My wife and I actually watch that channel pretty often. DIY is also a good channel.

 

[dare2be]

I've said it before and I will say it again. DISH should offer customers(New and existing) the right to buy outright there joeys and or super joey, so they can escape some of the fees. This would give DISH the money up front that they paid to give the customer the equipment and they could still charge the dvr fee per hopper.

I've said it before too. They should, but they can't because of the channel owners.

 

[lparsons21]

I'm not disagreeing, but would need to know is the Direct sports package reasonably equal to/better/not as good as the DISH package?

(Btw I do think an add on like the sports package is where DISH can charge more than it has to in order to make a profit. It isn't something most are going to need, so more of a luxury.)

The two sports packages are similar for the most part. Some different channels and such, but overall close enough to make them equal in value imo.

Biggest difference the RedZone in Dish's which is only part of the NFL Sunday Ticket on Direct.

 

[Yespage]

HGTV is one of those channels that actually works well as a reality TV show though.

Realty, not reality. Like House Shopping in areas where the homes cost 4x my home. Or quick turn arounds of home where the costs of the new flooring is worth about half of my home.

Bret and Bunny are looking to move into a new home. They have set aside $500k, and purchased this fixer upper for just $325,000. "Yeah, the house is perfectly fine, but we wanted to replace the counter in the Kitchen with marble mined by blind nuns from Tibet."

My wife and I actually watch that channel pretty often. DIY is also a good channel.

DIY has kept the faith... in 250.

 

[Tampa8]

The two sports packages are similar for the most part. Some different channels and such, but overall close enough to make them equal in value imo.

Biggest difference the RedZone in Dish's which is only part of the NFL Sunday Ticket on Direct.

I'm going to guess RedZone is the most expensive part of the Dish Sports package. I have no idea how much they could reduce that package and put it in AEP, I'm guessing some. Problem with that, how many who get AEP will drop it if AEP goes up even more.

 

[lparsons21]

I'm going to guess RedZone is the most expensive part of the Dish Sports package. I have no idea how much they could reduce that package and put it in AEP, I'm guessing some. Problem with that, how many who get AEP will drop it if AEP goes up even more.

I don't doubt that the Red Zone is the most expensive part. But yet, D* is stuffing their sports pack into their Premier for only $3 more than E*'s current AEP. And I was just offered the Multi-sports for 1/2 off for 6 months and suspect that isn't a money loser for them either.

Just sayin'

 

[MikeD-C05]

I've said it before too. They should, but they can't because of the channel owners.

How bout you explain how equipment charges will affect the channels? Unless you think that some of these fees are there to subsidize the channels themselves,which I don't believe they do.

 

[acostapimps]

Let's compare Directv and Dish prices with equipment fees

Dish America's Everything Pack: $126.99
Hopper: $12 monthly fee
Super Joey: $10 monthly fee or Joey(regular) $7 monthly fee
Total: $145.99-$148.99

Directv Premier Package $129.99
Genie HR34/44: ARF(Advanced Receiver Fee) $25 monthly (HD,DVR,MRV combined)
Genie Mini or HR24 $6 monthly Additional TV(aka mirroring fee)
Total: $160.99

That's a $12-$15 difference

 

[ChadT41]

If those prices add up, that pretty much proves that conversation. I'm assuming they are all prices either pulled from a bill or their website?