adding a hopper (currently have 2 hoppers & 5 joeys)

FRANKYBONEZ

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My in-laws moved in with us so we could take care of them. I moved the joey from my room to their room so they could have TV. As time progressed, there has been timer conflicts between them and the kids, as well as the parents and kids deleting each others recordings as well as timers. Bottom line they had a brilliant idea to buy another hopper. Upon 1st call to dish, they said it would be in the ballpark of $300.00 plus installation as well as adding 2 additional joeys to the system (which is not needed). I was an installer for Dish & Directv several years back, last thing I ever installed was a 301. They bought a Brand new Hopper never activated online from a reputable seller for $100.00. Now I'm scratching my head on how to install it. As stated in the title I am running 2 hoppers & 5 joeys currently, with a Duo Node 185836. Can anyone help me with what I will need, and how it would need to be installed. Diagrams would be greatly appreciated. I did see several diagrams, but none that actually fits my request. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
You will need a DPP44 switch cascaded with a DPP33 switch to make enough DPP outputs to feed a dual node and a solo node. I think.
 
I saw a diagram, won't let me post the link, came from this site, showing dish to DPP44 (with power inserted), then the duo node, then DPP33, and solo node, but what about the 5 joeys?
 
Connect the duo and solo client ports together. You can use a splitter in the mix if necessary. But...how independent is their viewing? Do you really need the Joeys to see their Hopper?
 
I'm not going to be tying any Joeys to their new hopper. I just need to add it to my existing setup. Is there a simple solution, or the 3 additional switches necessary? Also, this is what I am looking for, if I do need to add the 3 additional switches, would that change my current configuration? I'm not afraid of doing it right, I just am unfamiliar with this particular technology. As previously stated, I've already already had enough grief, just trying to make everyone happy. Thanks again for all your help.
 
I'm not going to be tying any Joeys to their new hopper. I just need to add it to my existing setup. Is there a simple solution, or the 3 additional switches necessary? Also, this is what I am looking for, if I do need to add the 3 additional switches, would that change my current configuration? I'm not afraid of doing it right, I just am unfamiliar with this particular technology. As previously stated, I've already already had enough grief, just trying to make everyone happy. Thanks again for all your help.
you could get a couple taps and configure those coming of the host ports off the node, then you could add joeys to the client ports
dont know if it would work or not with a duo node.

I run taps off the solo nodes for single hopper setups all the time if a customer has just one line going into the home and have all the cable runs ran to a splitter in an attic or crawl space or something.

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Could a 6th joey solve your problems? Much simpler install and cheaper monthly fee.
in the op he stated on of the issues is people deleting recordings and timers.
so probably not.

something I just thought of is just install another dish and solo node if he doesn't feel like installing a bunch of switches.

for around a $100-$150 dollars he could get a 1000.2 dish with lnbf and node that includes a tripod compass and signal meter.

actually after a amazon search he can get a dish kit and solo node for less than a $100
 
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You will need a DPP44 switch cascaded with a DPP33 switch to make enough DPP outputs to feed a dual node and a solo node. I think.

You can cascade to another DPP44 - which considering the DPP33's haven't been made for awhile, may be his only choice...unless he can still find one somewhere like e-bay, etc....
 
I had noticed it was remarkably hard to find a DPP33. With that being said, could I use a DPP44 in conjunction (cascading) to another? What about a DPP34?
 
also, I hadn't even thought about just putting another dish up. I still have my birdog. I feel like that would be much simpler. That way I don't even need to change the current configuration, and everyone wins.
 
I hadn't even thought about just putting another dish up. I still have my birdog. I feel like that would be much simpler.

Given the cost of the DPP44, that might be cheaper.
What about a DPP34?

I don't believe such a thing exists. If you meant to type DP34, that won't work with a solo node since it requires DPP inputs, and the DP34 has only DP outputs.
 
Next question. We are in Central Mississippi. What dish and bird locations would I need to have a setup for. We have America's everything package. My current installation was performed by a rookie, and I have a 500 I think pulling 110 & 119, and a dish 300 for the 61.5. I'm almost certain I have not been getting all the channels that we have been paying for for the past 8 years, but that is beside the point. Installing a new dish for them, would be the best plan, I just want to make sure that it is the right one. I see these "super dish" and dish 1000, but I'm not sure which setup would be suitable for my location, also with my programming needs. Thanks for all you've all mentioned and all the assistance. I really appreciate all of it!
 
Dish will upgrade you from mixed arc to EA or WA. At least they did for me, and it was free too. :D
 
I don't know Mississippi very well. Except for Columbus and Meridian, all Mississippi DMAs are on Eastern Arc.
 
I'm not going to be tying any Joeys to their new hopper. I just need to add it to my existing setup. Is there a simple solution, or the 3 additional switches necessary? Also, this is what I am looking for, if I do need to add the 3 additional switches, would that change my current configuration? I'm not afraid of doing it right, I just am unfamiliar with this particular technology. As previously stated, I've already already had enough grief, just trying to make everyone happy. Thanks again for all your help.
Sorry - thought I had posted earlier but apparently never clicked the button.

A second Dish would certainly be less expensive, maybe easier, maybe not - depending on location.

If you still want to consider switches:

There are only two switches needed (not three) and the solo node needed. If you are not connecting the new Hopper with the existing Joeys, then the big changes are on the Dish side of the node.
The layout is:
Code:
     ---->          ---->
Dish ---->   DPP44  ---->  DPP33
     ----> ________ ---->  _____ 
            | | | |         | |
Power Ins --+ | | |      Solo Node
              | | |
            Duo Node

The only "inside" change is moving the line going to the in-laws Joey from the client port of the Duo Node over to the Solo Node's Hopper port.
 
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