The United States has opened the floods gates for cheap Chinese Junk for the home consumer market, vehicle parts, construction supplies, just about anything you can think of. Dangerous baby toys, poison sheet rock, home wiring mis-labled. The American consumer is demanding CHEAP, and cheap is what we are being fed. I hear words like; Its a little buggy, the parts did not last, the Grade 8-1/2" bolt twisted off at 25 foot pounds, etc. And the majority of the population rolls their eyes and go right back to Chinese stuff. Hell, the Chinese dont care about quality, they dont care about the US, all they want is to make money. Hell, they even put melamine in milk that killed a lot of their babies. Yes, I believe China can make a reasonable quality product if the American Company demands it and follows thru with top line QC. Problem is a US Importer will not send back a complete production run if they find its bad. Just sell it and get it out to the public. All Chinese consumer electronics of decent quality carry the UL Listing. Chinese junk never has a UL Listing. More to the point, the only satellite equipment I own that has UL Listings is my C Band Legacy equipment. I have a jack on my 12 foot Paraclisp Dish that I bought in 1984, thats 26 years ago. It still runs the dish up and down like the day I bought it. It runs flawless at 35 below zero. Thats quality. Honestly, none of the Chinese FTA stuff I own ever goes on standby when I leave the house or go to bed.......Its unplugged. No UL Listing, I dont trust it........period. Until consumers in the US stop wanting cheap and demand quality, this wont end. And, I sure dont see a end, what I see is a appetite for even cheaper goods. 8Valve