If you just can't stick a hole in the ground... search for threads on the 6' Prodelin solid dish. Lots of members have 'em. Linuxman & Phlatwound have fine pictures, as do many others. The dishes nearly always come on a big non-penetrating roof mount (NPRM). ?And are often cheap or free. That mount should hold your 8' dish, just close to the ground. The 6' offset is a top notch dish, but not really the best choice for 95% of the members.I picked up an 8 ft solid a few weeks ago. I'm starting to get some ideas!