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61.5 Signal Issues / Split ARC
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Thanks for the input.
I ordered the I bracket from the link above.
It said it shipped. Unlike previously, twice. So, perhaps I will receive it, this time.
I don't want to mess with the Dish till I have an I bracket, if possible.
Only because I am stupid / stubborn.
I have high expectations the I bracket will arrive before Xmas.
Now that the trees have lost their leaves, I will admit, I am having less issues.
So, I have tree issues perhaps. ? ? ? Duh, no ....sh*t. If only I knew which direction. ? ?
Thanks for all your input.
I will report back as I learn.
What is the signal level on 61.5 transponder 5, 7 ,10, 12 ?
All HD locals for ZIP 22315 are on 61.5 , for the rest of the HD channels you missing you need 72 or 129.
Hello,
..... Blast from the past. lol
OP here, ... shocking I know.
Following up.
I finally realized you all have had difficulty sleeping, worrying about my technical issues, so I thought I would finally try to follow up.
Well 8 months later, after adding the single LNB boot to the Dish 500 arm to LNB, for 61.5, my signal strength, after tweaking "in the summer / will full tree canopy, is;
T5; 50 - 52
T7; 46-48
T10; 55-59
T12; 49-54
Which is awesome, and I am totally satisfied with that now.
Prior to tweak signal on 12 was 22 -32.
After recent tweaks (adding single plastic adapter to LNB, as opposed to the existing double plastic adapter.) to dish I have learned;
I needed a good tuning of the dish.
That my signal issues are not equipment related.
The monster tree to the right of dish is not in the way of 61.5.
If anything could be blocking signal it would be the limbs directly above, ironically.
Not sure yet how high the birds are.
My Dish was not tweaked to max signal.
Need to use wife's smart phone to download Dishpointer App, Yes ? ? ?
So I can see exactly where these birds are located in the sky, yes ? ? ?
Sorry for the 8 month delay posting back.
I want to post pics too. Trying to figure out that process.
Would love to show photos of how I am boxed in by trees.
I have a split arc due to trees.
Dish installers could only capture 72 in the winter. Come summer, with leaves we lost signal.
So I reset the dishes back to split arc.
So I have two dishes, one on 61, another on 110/119.
I know, I am missing many channels, and a lot of HD.
My birds shoul be 61 and 72.
Don't think I can capture 129 either.
It is what it is.
I asked Dish Network if they would help compensate me to remove a 70 foot Hickory tree, so I could capture their birds. (72)
They said no.
Hope all that makes sense.
And I apologizes for the 8 month gap in my response to this thread.
Life got in the way.
Hope everyone is well.
Will try to post pics.
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This is my window to the eastern arc. Photo taken behind a dish 500 pointed at 61.5.
As you can see the available window for birds is limited.
I can grab 61.5, but 72, to the right, is blocked in the summer with the leaves.
72 works in the winter with leaves down, but that sucks come summer, IFYKWIM.
Need to drop a 70 - 80 foot Hickory tree, which is the beast to the right. This tree is beautiful, but makes an incredible mess.
The nuts drop and dents cars below at the driveway.
Darkest material in photo is limbs and trees closest to dish. IOW above it. Which I finally realized can also interfere with the signal. Because the birds are higher than you think.
In my town that is $1500 -2000 for a licensed, competent, insured tree service provider to drop the tree.
Who won't drop the tree on the home. This trunk is 12 - 17 feet from the home.
Power, cable, copper phone, fios, all in the tree. Literally. Oh my.
Base tree trunk diameter at around three feet. This tree is a mammoth. And growing like a weed for some reason the past few years.
As you can see the available window for birds is limited.
I can grab 61.5, but 72, to the right, is blocked in the summer with the leaves.
72 works in the winter with leaves down, but that sucks come summer, IFYKWIM.
Need to drop a 70 - 80 foot Hickory tree, which is the beast to the right. This tree is beautiful, but makes an incredible mess.
The nuts drop and dents cars below at the driveway.
Darkest material in photo is limbs and trees closest to dish. IOW above it. Which I finally realized can also interfere with the signal. Because the birds are higher than you think.
In my town that is $1500 -2000 for a licensed, competent, insured tree service provider to drop the tree.
Who won't drop the tree on the home. This trunk is 12 - 17 feet from the home.
Power, cable, copper phone, fios, all in the tree. Literally. Oh my.
Base tree trunk diameter at around three feet. This tree is a mammoth. And growing like a weed for some reason the past few years.
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This shows the original double lnb plastic mount that I felt hampered my ability to realize what was in the way of the signal.
I wasn't sure where the bird was, nor where the dish was pointed.
With the single lnb I Bracket installed it was much more obvious to me which trees were affecting the signal, if at all, etc.
Prior, I had a dual bracket for the lnb. Which made me question the true direction of said 61.5 bird.
So I installed a straight, single I bracket, and now I can obviously see laterally where 61.5 is.
This also shows off my custom install mentioned last year.
I don't like wires hanging off the side of my home. Nor running on my roof.
So, ... I got some 1.25" galvanized pipe and came up with this.
The vertical pole goes all the way to the ceiling rafters, which in my house are 2 X 6's.
But it's only about 4 feet max down to those ceiling joist/rafters at that point in the roof slope.
And at that point there is a tee, then two foot pipe extensions are added for stability, and strapped to said joists.
Just below the roof penetration is a tee or Y joint that allows the coax to pass to it's destination within the attic.
Point is, this is very stable. The hard part of the install was to get the vertical pipe perfectly level.
I learned here that was very important. Thanks for that tip. Makes everything after that, easy. ie; align dish.
I wasn't sure where the bird was, nor where the dish was pointed.
With the single lnb I Bracket installed it was much more obvious to me which trees were affecting the signal, if at all, etc.
Prior, I had a dual bracket for the lnb. Which made me question the true direction of said 61.5 bird.
So I installed a straight, single I bracket, and now I can obviously see laterally where 61.5 is.
This also shows off my custom install mentioned last year.
I don't like wires hanging off the side of my home. Nor running on my roof.
So, ... I got some 1.25" galvanized pipe and came up with this.
The vertical pole goes all the way to the ceiling rafters, which in my house are 2 X 6's.
But it's only about 4 feet max down to those ceiling joist/rafters at that point in the roof slope.
And at that point there is a tee, then two foot pipe extensions are added for stability, and strapped to said joists.
Just below the roof penetration is a tee or Y joint that allows the coax to pass to it's destination within the attic.
Point is, this is very stable. The hard part of the install was to get the vertical pipe perfectly level.
I learned here that was very important. Thanks for that tip. Makes everything after that, easy. ie; align dish.
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Another pic from behind 61.5 . A tight hole regardless.
72 is just into that branch and tree line to the right.
Like I said, in the winter it may work. Actually that was a few years ago.
I'm sure the tree is totally in the way now.
Will load dishpointer app to wife's smart phone and finally see where these birds are, .... well at least some day. lol
72 is just into that branch and tree line to the right.
Like I said, in the winter it may work. Actually that was a few years ago.
I'm sure the tree is totally in the way now.
Will load dishpointer app to wife's smart phone and finally see where these birds are, .... well at least some day. lol
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61.5 dish after I bracket install, showing lots of mildew. Like, a lot.
At the bottom, almost 1/8 inch thick.
Perhaps it's not just a pointing / tree issue. Could it be a build up of mildew / moss?
Of course an 1/8 inch of moss could affect the signal. Especially if located at the bottom of the reflector.
I know that from being a lurker here for years. lol.
It's like ice and snow affecting the signal.
Do others clean their dish reflector surface? ? ?
Why is there so much moss/mildew?
Refer to previous images.
This dish is in a shade forest. lol. With a small window in the canopy to capture 61.
Thanks again to all who responded to this thread last year. lol.
I hope my followup is worthy.
I also figured out how to post pics.
Best Wishes
At the bottom, almost 1/8 inch thick.
Perhaps it's not just a pointing / tree issue. Could it be a build up of mildew / moss?
Of course an 1/8 inch of moss could affect the signal. Especially if located at the bottom of the reflector.
I know that from being a lurker here for years. lol.
It's like ice and snow affecting the signal.
Do others clean their dish reflector surface? ? ?
Why is there so much moss/mildew?
Refer to previous images.
This dish is in a shade forest. lol. With a small window in the canopy to capture 61.
Thanks again to all who responded to this thread last year. lol.
I hope my followup is worthy.
I also figured out how to post pics.
Best Wishes
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Forgot to mention;
I had to move the dish "north / left" about 1/8 inch at the vertical mounting post after installing the "I Bracket" .
ie; after removing the double lnb "y bracket" unnecessarily installed in my dish setup.
So at the mount post the dish needed to be moved1/8 inch to the left to recapture the signal of 61.5.
So the lnb must have moved at least an inch to the left IMO.
We all had banter about this last year fwiw in this thread.
I also raised the dish a bit too for the best signal.
Not sure if related to I bracket. Unlikely.
Now that I'm typing this, do I have to worry / concern of tilt / Azimuth with a single lnb dish 500 61.5 ??? Doesn't the dish 500 have an azimuth adjustment? Never occurred to me.
I will admit, I did forget, for a period, that the western arc will show higher signal strength, than the eastern arc. As posted above last year. Duh.
In my town we have horrible Dish Technicians unfortunately.
Usually after they do there install, or whatnot, I have to redo/tweak it.
Thankfully they have only been required twice over the decades.
Again, thank you all for your patience dealing with a newbie.
May you have strong signals.
Bear
I had to move the dish "north / left" about 1/8 inch at the vertical mounting post after installing the "I Bracket" .
ie; after removing the double lnb "y bracket" unnecessarily installed in my dish setup.
So at the mount post the dish needed to be moved1/8 inch to the left to recapture the signal of 61.5.
So the lnb must have moved at least an inch to the left IMO.
We all had banter about this last year fwiw in this thread.
I also raised the dish a bit too for the best signal.
Not sure if related to I bracket. Unlikely.
Now that I'm typing this, do I have to worry / concern of tilt / Azimuth with a single lnb dish 500 61.5 ??? Doesn't the dish 500 have an azimuth adjustment? Never occurred to me.
I will admit, I did forget, for a period, that the western arc will show higher signal strength, than the eastern arc. As posted above last year. Duh.
In my town we have horrible Dish Technicians unfortunately.
Usually after they do there install, or whatnot, I have to redo/tweak it.
Thankfully they have only been required twice over the decades.
Again, thank you all for your patience dealing with a newbie.
May you have strong signals.
Bear
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