211K trying to record

[Bobkatz]

Recently Dish tect came & replaced my 301 with 211k. Which I had for 12 years.

With the 301 receiver I had no problem recording to my Magnavox DVD recorder but now it won't work unless I leave the TV on & it records OK.

I called Dish & spoke with a tect, he said that U can't record with the 211k receiver. I asked if I could use a separate hard drive hooked up through the usb connection, he said it won't work!

I read somewhere online that it would work if it had it's own power supply, & call Dish for one time $40 fee.
What is the answer?

 

[NYDutch]

The $40 one-time fee is the correct answer. If the phone reps can't get it right, try contacting one of the DIRT reps here.

 

[Mr Tony]

yeah its a one time $40 fee and you can hook up your own hard drive and record

 

[TheKrell]

Yup; the one-time $40 fee per account was correct. Note that the external disk is encrypted, so you would only be able to play back recordings made on your 211z or another in the series (411,211,211k).

 

[rvvaquero]

May be confusing two different things here. You had been using a DVD to record output from the 301. Is that what you still want to do?

Adding an external hard drive and using the 211K as a DVR works very well, but I don't know about using your DVD.

 

[Bobkatz]

May be confusing two different things here. You had been using a DVD to record output from the 301. Is that what you still want to do?


Adding an external hard drive and using the 211K as a DVR works very well, but I don't know about using your DVD.

Yes, originally!

Actually I can record using my recorder with 211K receiver but only if the TV in on! Turn TV off & it won't work! I tried explaining that to the Dish tect over the phone but he couldn't believe it! I hate to leave TV on all the time, especially when we're not home!

 

[TheKrell]

Is the TV hooked up via HDMI? What does the DVD recorder use for inputs?

 

[osu1991]

Should just have to run the red white yellow cable from 211k to the DVD recorder.

 

[osu1991]

Although adding hard drive and paying dish $40 would be a lot simpler for the user.

My 211k with hard drive has been bullet proof for years.

 

[Bobkatz]

Should just have to run the red white yellow cable from 211k to the DVD recorder.

That is what I first did, but shut tv off it doesn't work!

 

[Bobkatz]

Is the TV hooked up via HDMI? What does the DVD recorder use for inputs?

Yes I have a HDMI hooked from receiver to TV! I have RCA red, white & yellow hooked to recorder.

 

[rvvaquero]

Yes I have a HDMI hooked from receiver to TV! I have RCA red, white & yellow hooked to recorder.

You know, I think the receiver detects when the TV is off and just quits sending the video signal. I have a 211K also. When I turn my TV off and then back on, it takes a few seconds for the picture to come back, even though the TV is ready. It shows the Dish receiver standby screen at first. However, if I'm viewing a different input, like DVD or OTA, the picture is instant as soon as the TV is ready.

 

[wmw007]

Yes I have a HDMI hooked from receiver to TV! I have RCA red, white & yellow hooked to recorder.

It appears to me to be a bug in Dish's software. If the box can't get a valid handshake from the TV (a copy protection issue), the box basically shuts down all video. But the software should NEVER shut down the standard definition outputs. It logically should always allow you to do what you are trying to do.

Will it record if you unplug the HDMI cable?

 

[osu1991]

Personally, I would spend the $40 and use an external hard drive. Many benefits to that. You can set and view recordings right from the 211. If OTA is available to you, you can also watch OTA while recording Sat or vice-versa. You can also record from OTA and SAT at the same time.

 

[navychop]

It appears to me to be a bug in Dish's software. If the box can't get a valid handshake from the TV (a copy protection issue), the box basically shuts down all video. But the software should NEVER shut down the standard definition outputs. It logically should always allow you to do what you are trying to do.

Will it record if you unplug the HDMI cable?

Not sure about that. I think there's an option to shut down even analog when no handshake- and content owners are pushing its use.

Anyone know when the sunset is for analog outputs, from BDs and elsewhere?

 

[Bobkatz]

This is what I get on recorder when trying to record anything, with TV off!

 

[Bobby]

You could try to connect to your TV with component cables (red, green, blue) instead of HDMI. You would also need to run red and white audio to the TV. I think that will accomplish your desired result.

 

[Bobkatz]

You could try to connect to your TV with component cables (red, green, blue) instead of HDMI. You would also need to run red and white audio to the TV. I think that will accomplish your desired result.

What difference does it make what is connected to TV when it's OFF!

 

[garys]

HDMI will communicate from the receiver to the tv and from the tv to the receiver, component will only communicate from the receiver to the tv. Your problem is likely caused by the tv telling the receiver it is shut off, it won't be able to with component connections.

 

[osu1991]

That sound like your tv is not hdcp compliant and the having the hdmi connected is killing the video outputs. Connected it via component and I bet it goes away