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Georgia has opened as a 13.5 favorite over TCU for Monday night's games.

Why the heck does that game have to be a weekday evening? I don't mind late Saturday games, as there is no work the next day, but having it on Monday ensures very little sleep for the next day. If they want to avoid the NFL game on Saturday (Tennessee v. Jacksonville), just have the game on Friday night.
 
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Here are the Stat's for both semi-finals

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Derwin0 said:
Georgia has opened as a 13.5 favorite over TCU for Monday night's games.

Why the heck does that game have to be a weekday evening? I don't mind late Saturday games, as there is no work the next day, but having it on Monday ensures very little sleep for the next day. If they want to avoid the NFL game on Saturday (Tennessee v. Jacksonville), just have the game on Friday night.
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Fans have been discussing this for ages .... wanting it on Saturday night instead of a Monday night.
To no avail apparently ...
Lot more viewers would be able to see it on Saturday, making much more money.

It would probably outdraw the NFL games as well, seeing the NFL isn't in thier playoffs yet.
 
Jimbo said:
It would probably outdraw the NFL games as well, seeing the NFL isn't in thier playoffs yet.
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Agreed, be a different story if it was still wildcard weekend.

Curious to see if what days they'll be doing the Semi-Finals and Championship game after next year (Quarter-Finals will be on New Years Eve & New Years Day).

*edit* I found where the Championship Game will still be on a Monday in 2025 (Jan 20) & 2026 (Jan 19). :(
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All love to the college football playoffs, but nothing beats the NFL, and nobody even tries to anymore. The semi-finals, on a Saturday, got about 90% of what the top NFL game gets every week. That is great for any non NFL product, but this configuration with New Year falling on a Sunday won't come again until 2034,

That is the big unknown in over-expanded playoff system. As Christmas and New Year work their way around the week, they have to work around the NFL, and the NFL is just unbeatable.
 
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Certainly the ratings for playoff games that actually matter will likely be higher than the bowl games they are replacing.
 
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SamCdbs said:
That is the big unknown in over-expanded playoff system. As Christmas and New Year work their way around the week, they have to work around the NFL, and the NFL is just unbeatable.
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Especially as the semi-finals will fall during the NFL's wildcard round (which are now spread across Sat, Sun, and Mon).

Be some interesting scheduling in trying to work the two semi-finals around the 6 NFL wild card games that weekend.
 
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Derwin0 said:
Especially as the semi-finals will fall during the NFL's wildcard round (which are now spread across Sat, Sun, and Mon).

Be some interesting scheduling in trying to work the two semi-finals around the 6 NFL wild card games that weekend.
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What the college football playoffs is attempting to do is an expansion of the sport deep into January. If you look at those "on this day in sports history" deals, you understand that most sports have sort of "creeped" later into the year. The first Super Bowl was on January 15, the World Series used to be the first, then second, week of October, etc.

But the question really is does anybody really want what amounts to another month (eventually) of college football. The NFL has all the good time slots, and other sports, particularly college basketball need their times as well. Divorced from the tradition and pageantry of the old bowl system, its just minor league pro football, grinding down to a single champion, in the dead of winter.
 
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SamCdbs said:
But the question really is does anybody really want what amounts to another month (eventually) of college football.
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Yes, yes we do. :D
SamCdbs said:
The NFL has all the good time slots, and other sports, particularly college basketball need their times as well. Divorced from the tradition and pageantry of the old bowl system
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The pageantry of the old bowl system died when ESPN quadrupled the number of bowl games out there and turned it into a participation trophy system
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, its just minor league pro football, grinding down to a single champion, in the dead of winter.
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It's been that ever since the NFL became popular and players could make real money.
 
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SamCdbs said:
But the question really is does anybody really want what amounts to another month (eventually) of college football.
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No, you don't. You want to put the genie back in the bottle and pretend it was the 1980s still. Others want a national champion that was somehow agreed to be the national champion in College Football, I mean other than OSU and Alabama fans who think their teams should be crowned champion like a football emperor... you know... because. No other sport in college is run like football. It is an absolute farce of a "amateur" sport. All other sports have an actual champion where there really isn't a debate. But in college football, which is more like a Fortune 500 company than an amateur sport, is run like a business trying to please shareholders instead of having a collegiate sports product.

A playoff is, in part, trying to kind of fix that, in a way... that still allows the cartels full control on the system and continue to run as a finely oiled Fortune 500 company.
SamCdbs said:
The NFL has all the good time slots, and other sports, particularly college basketball need their times as well. Divorced from the tradition and pageantry of the old bowl system, its just minor league pro football, grinding down to a single champion, in the dead of winter.
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I mean it'd be crazy, but maybe put the playoff games in November/December, instead of dragging it into the spring. Or better yet, end this stupid conference cartel set up. Georgia v OSU, Michigan v TCU? Those were great games. Imagine if we had more than one or two of them during the season per team. Instead of watching OSU play Indiana because Indiana is a cartel school, OSU plays the SEC two or three times. Maybe Big 12 (or whatever is left) one time, the PAC-1X a couple times. Imagine, every game against a top 30 or 40 team. It'd be nuts, but you want ratings... in a 21st century entertainment world?! I'd watch that!

But until then, an 8 team playoff should start close to the end of the season instead of letting a glacial epoch pass through between the last game and the playoff. But again, Cartels have their reasons, as do the "non-profit" bowl games.
 
Yespage said:
A playoff is, in part, trying to kind of fix that, in a way...
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A full playoff does allow for a true champion, especially with over half the conference champions getting an invite. That gives a true path for every team, instead of the older models that would lock out teams because they were not "worthy" in favor of a big name team.
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I mean it'd be crazy, but maybe put the playoff games in November/December, instead of dragging it into the spring.
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Agreed, plenty of time in December to have the first couple of rounds. Plus the long break tend to work against some teams as they become rusty as sitting for so long.
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Or better yet, end this stupid conference cartel set up.
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Won't happen as conferences are separate entities and the Supreme Court long ago (1980) ruled that the NCAA had no authority over them due to anti-trust laws.
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Georgia v OSU, Michigan v TCU? Those were great games. Imagine if we had more than one or two of them during the season per team. Instead of watching OSU play Indiana because Indiana is a cartel school, OSU plays the SEC two or three times. Maybe Big 12 (or whatever is left) one time, the PAC-1X a couple times. Imagine, every game against a top 30 or 40 team. It'd be nuts, but you want ratings... in a 21st century entertainment world?! I'd watch that!
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With conference champions getting automatic bids, as open at 6 at-large slots, the big schools won't be so resistant at scheduling major OOC teams.
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But until then, an 8 team playoff should start close to the end of the season instead of letting a glacial epoch pass through between the last game and the playoff. But again, Cartels have their reasons, as do the "non-profit" bowl games.
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Isn't it a 12 team playoff? But yes that should help. I expect that by the time the contract comes up again, they'll get rid of the bye's and expand it to a full 16 teams.
 
Yespage said:
No, you don't. You want to put the genie back in the bottle and pretend it was the 1980s still. Others want a national champion that was somehow agreed to be the national champion in College Football, I mean other than OSU and Alabama fans who think their teams should be crowned champion like a football emperor... you know... because. No other sport in college is run like football. It is an absolute farce of a "amateur" sport. All other sports have an actual champion where there really isn't a debate. But in college football, which is more like a Fortune 500 company than an amateur sport, is run like a business trying to please shareholders instead of having a collegiate sports product.

A playoff is, in part, trying to kind of fix that, in a way... that still allows the cartels full control on the system and continue to run as a finely oiled Fortune 500 company.

I mean it'd be crazy, but maybe put the playoff games in November/December, instead of dragging it into the spring. Or better yet, end this stupid conference cartel set up. Georgia v OSU, Michigan v TCU? Those were great games. Imagine if we had more than one or two of them during the season per team. Instead of watching OSU play Indiana because Indiana is a cartel school, OSU plays the SEC two or three times. Maybe Big 12 (or whatever is left) one time, the PAC-1X a couple times. Imagine, every game against a top 30 or 40 team. It'd be nuts, but you want ratings... in a 21st century entertainment world?! I'd watch that!

But until then, an 8 team playoff should start close to the end of the season instead of letting a glacial epoch pass through between the last game and the playoff. But again, Cartels have their reasons, as do the "non-profit" bowl games.
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What you are describing is minor league football. Of the four major sports, two have the majority of their developmental level as professional minor leagues (hockey and baseball) and the other two use colleges. College football and basketball make hundreds of millions of dollars. Minor league baseball makes tens of dollars.

Divorced of the last pretense that the teams are not professional and that they have some sort of relationship with the college (and in many rural states, somehow with the state itself) minor league football appeals to who exactly?

And the "cartel" AKA the conferences and those that run them LIKE the fact that they can enter a year knowing they will win over the lesser teams in their conference, and like the fact that they can tout themselves as "Gator Bowl Champions" or whatever. That is why every stadium wall is covered with all those bowl logos.

The complete history of all but about 20 programs in a playoff system? "Never made playoffs". The same teams over and over, and the best team in the SEC wins it, every year. And everyone else is POS.
 
does anyone think TCU are overpriced at +350? ive seen them at 4/1 which seems too much for a 1 off game like this. anyone else backing the underdog?
 
Gotta love the advertising that ESPN is doing for the GFP game in California .... they talk about traffic and the roads you'll need to follow, and rattle off a few roads to stay off of and what to follow and every road they followed was a number of a Georgia Player, showing him running down the field ....
Never once did they show a TCU player/number ....
How much sadder is espn going to become now that they are SEC shills ???
 
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