2022-2023 NCAA Football Thread

[Jimbo]

7 would be above 0.

Again, temps that low aren't common in the lower midwest. Climate change appears to be making the polar vortex more wobbly, and it is venturing down "south" more often annually, but it isn't a thing that you can mark on the calendar as a certainty (yet). And when it comes, it is a fleeting visit. Except in 2013 (or 2014), that winter was COLD!!!

It is a drier cold too. Granted, any wind chill below 0 is awful, but honestly, if it is 0 and sunny, it isn't that bad, as long as one is bundled properly. The wind makes life awful. The South Shore of Massachusetts was warmer, but it was always "colder" with the ever present dampness from the Cape. Minnesota? That is a different story.

And the bugs are that long... in feet. Any state that requires AC in the car to be full force in May or you die is a state I can live not ever visiting.

Who decided that it had to be 0 to be COLD ?

 

[Yespage]

Well it would be far more fun watching southern teams playing in Dec. or Jan. in Minnesota, or Chicago snow or no snow. Humid cold air cuts like a knife. Gloves would make tackling, catching and throwing harder.

I'd say lower Midwest cold stings the surface... damp cold air, that just goes right through your bones. Even NYC is "warmer" than Boston. Why locals laugh at the idea of Thanksgiving with the natives in Plymouth in November. NO FREAKING WAY!!!

 

[Yespage]

Who decided that it had to be 0 to be COLD ?

*points to Ronnie*

*runs off*

 

[Derwin0]

What's funny is that weather didn't play a factor in any of the games we're talking about. Yet the possibility that the Big Ten team might have one day played in frigid weather was used as an excuse for them (except Michigan which has a winning record against the SEC) losing in games that were played in nice conditions.

 

[Bruce]

7 would be above 0.

Too cold for me now, after being here for over two years, I have become acclimated to the warmer temps here.

This morning, it was 58 when I got on the Life Cycle this morning, turned on the patio heater I normally use in January ( for about two weeks, always in the 40’s in the morning, 60’s during the day).

Back in Mighigan, I would of consider 58 to be a nice day.

And the bugs are that long... in feet. Any state that requires AC in the car to be full force in May or you die is a state I can live not ever visiting.

July and August are usually the worse, but I like the heat, fine with just a fan on me if outside on the patio during the day.

Also, kept checking the temps back home in Metro Detroit, they had a hot summer also, usually within a few degrees in July/August, I assume the humidity was a lot worse here.

Also I remember the hell I went thru typically in December till early March, have more then 4” and it always seemed that people forgot how to drive in it, or if more then 8” and it would take 3 days before the county gets around to plowing out our sub-division.

 

[Yespage]

Also, kept checking the temps back home in Metro Detroit, they had a hot summer also, usually within a few degrees in July/August, I assume the humidity was a lot worse here.

Yes, it can be hot in the summer and climate change is making it hotter, and extending that into the Fall too. But Florida just gets uber-humid, uber-uncomfortable.

Also I remember the hell I went thru typically in December till early March, have more then 4” and it always seemed that people forgot how to drive in it, or if more then 8” and it would take 3 days before the county gets around to plowing out our sub-division.

Really? Don't see that issue around here in NE Ohio. Granted, I live in the valley, and maybe the bad winter drivers got weeded out naturally.

 

[Bruce]

Yes, it can be hot in the summer and climate change is making it hotter, and extending that into the Fall too. But Florida just gets uber-humid, uber-uncomfortable.

Again, I love it here.

Just had family here for the first time, a lot of them asked me if I would move back since the reason for moving here was because of my wife’s health, I said nope for the reasons I already posted.

Really? Don't see that issue around here in NE Ohio. Granted, I live in the valley, and maybe the bad winter drivers got weeded out naturally.

Natural selection for bad drivers in the winter.

When I drove, not an issue, I would always see others not being able to handle it and worried they would hit me.

 

[SamCdbs]

Wow.

The northern teams really could compete with the southern teams if only the bowl games were held in the outdoors in January.

To learn why the South dominates the north in football, you don’t need to pay attention to the weather man. Just pay attention to Sunday or Monday night football when the players introduce themselves. And say where they played in college.

There are 505 NFL players that played in the SEC (all of these figures are pre- the latest realignment and ignore transfers), 381 from the Big 10, 307 from the ACC.

Kids want to see if they are really good enough, so they test themselves against the very best of their generation. That is the SEC. Same reason other kids test themselves by joining the Marines, taking organic chemistry, learning to play the oboe, going to flight school, and so on.

As long as the perception is that the best are in the SEC, it will also be a fact. The move of Texas and Oklahoma, both of which will right themselves very quickly, only makes this more true.

 

[Yespage]

Wow.

The northern teams really could compete with the southern teams if only the bowl games were held in the outdoors in January.

To learn why the South dominates the north in football, you don’t need to pay attention to the weather man. Just pay attention to Sunday or Monday night football when the players introduce themselves. And say where they played in college.

There are 505 NFL players that played in the SEC (all of these figures are pre- the latest realignment and ignore transfers), 381 from the Big 10, 307 from the ACC.

Kids want to see if they are really good enough, so they test themselves against the very best of their generation. That is the SEC. Same reason other kids test themselves by joining the Marines, taking organic chemistry, learning to play the oboe, going to flight school, and so on.

As long as the perception is that the best are in the SEC, it will also be a fact. The move of Texas and Oklahoma, both of which will right themselves very quickly, only makes this more true.

This is from 20-21. It implies that the SEC is tops, but it isn't by a huge amount. Including recent transferring schools is a little silly.

Go to the individual school level, Alabama and OSU are 1 and 2, and close enough. Which indicates that great to be pro-football players played in the Big Ten and SEC. There is no question those two are the juggernauts these days. Big 12 used to matter.

Also, the argument above it a bit misleading. Because talent will want to play. Great, you got onto the Alabama squad... are you going to play college football and enhance your chances of getting to the NFL? Which might mean they go elsewhere.

Want to know who is kind of the best, looked at the national champions. I know, I know, the B10 isn't much on that list. I'm not happy about that either.

 

[Derwin0]

Playoff Expansion is a go for 2024/25

Where is the college football national championship in 2025?

Atlanta will host another College Football Playoff national championship – this time the expanded version at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium on Jan. 20, 2025, following the 2024 season. Atlanta becomes the first city to repeat as a host destination for college football’s title game. Miami will...

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Atlanta will host another College Football Playoff national championship – this time the expanded version.

The CFP Board of Managers officially announced an expanded 12-team playoff starting with the 2024-25 season. The first national championship game will be played at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium on Jan. 20, 2025, following the 2024 season. Atlanta becomes the first city to repeat as a host destination for college football’s title game. Miami will host the title game the following year on Jan. 19, 2026, following the 2025 season.

“This is a big win for everyone involved and we are excited for the Atlanta community,” Atlanta Sports Council President Dan Corso said in a statement. “As soon as we wrapped up the successful hosting of the 2018 College Football Playoff National Championship, we were ready and eager to throw our name back into the hat. Atlanta is accustomed to hosting major sporting events, but this event is one that fits our community really well. We are grateful to the College Football Playoff for allowing us this opportunity for a second time and look forward to officially beginning the planning process with multiple partners in the community.”

Additionally for Atlanta, the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl will be the site for a quarterfinal game in 2024 and a semifinal game in 2025, it was announced Thursday.

For the 2024 and 2025 seasons, the four quarterfinal games and two semifinal games will be played in bowls on a rotating basis. The 2024 quarterfinals will take place in the Peach Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl, and the Cotton Bowl and Orange Bowl will host the semifinals. The 2025 quarterfinals will take place in the Cotton Bowl, Orange Bowl, Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl, and the Fiesta Bowl and Peach Bowl will host the semifinals.

The first round of the playoff in 2024 will take place the week ending Dec. 21, at either the home field of the higher-seeded team or at another site designated by the higher-seeded institution. (No. 12 at No. 5, No. 11 at No. 6, No. 10 at No. 7, and No. 9 at No. 8.) The specific game dates, likely late in that week, will be announced later.

“We’re delighted to be moving forward,” Bill Hancock, executive director of the College Football Playoff, said in a statement on the playoff expansion. “When the board expanded the playoff beginning in 2026 and asked the CFP Management Committee to examine the feasibility of starting the new format earlier, the Management Committee went right to work. More teams and more access mean more excitement for fans, alumni, students and student-athletes. We appreciate the leaders of the six bowl games and the two future national championship game host cities for their cooperation. Everyone realized that this change is in the best interest of college football and pulled together to make it happen.” The CFP announced the expansion to a 12-team playoff, completing an 18-month process that was fraught with delays and disagreements.

The announcement comes a day after the Rose Bowl agreed to amend its contract for the 2024 and 2025 seasons, which was the last hurdle CFP officials needed cleared to triple the size of what is now a four-team format.

Expansion is expected to produce about $450 million in additional gross revenue for the conferences and schools that participate.

Atlanta hosted the memorable national championship game following the 2017 season on Jan. 18, 2018. Alabama defeated Georgia 26-23, coming back from a 13-0 halftime deficit to win the first CFP national championship decided in overtime.

“Bringing the game back to Atlanta was a simple decision when we looked at everything,” Hancock said in a statement. “One of our greatest title games took place in Atlanta in 2018, and the city could not have been a better host. A state-of-the-art stadium, a walkable downtown with venues to host all the activities surrounding national championship weekend and great people made Atlanta an obvious choice to be the first city to host a second title game.”

 

[Derwin0]

If the new rules were in play this year, assuming the strongest team wins it's conference championships, the playoff teams would be:

1 - Georgia (SEC Champion)
2 - Michigan (Big Ten Champion)
3 - TCU (Big XII Champion)
4 - USC (Pac12 Champion)
5 - Ohio State (Big Ten at-large)
6 - Alabama (SEC at-large)
7 - Tennessee (SEC at-large)
8 - Penn State (Big Ten at-large)
9 - Clempson (ACC Champion)
10 - Kansas State (Big XII at-large)
11 - Utah (PAC12 at-large)
12 - Tulane (AAC Champion)

*note* Washington & FSU could go above Kansas State & Utah based on whether they fall or not after loosing to TCU & USC.

 

[Yespage]

You misspelled Notre Dame at 10 or 11.

 

[Derwin0]

You misspelled Notre Dame at 10 or 11.

How so, the committee has them at 21

2024 College Football Rankings - ESPN

Find the 2024 NCAAF rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAF teams.

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[Yespage]

How so, the committee has them at 21

2024 College Football Rankings - ESPN

Find the 2024 NCAAF rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAF teams.

www.espn.com

Because they'll make certain Notre Dame is in the playoff.

 

[Jimbo]

Wow.

The northern teams really could compete with the southern teams if only the bowl games were held in the outdoors in January.

To learn why the South dominates the north in football, you don’t need to pay attention to the weather man. Just pay attention to Sunday or Monday night football when the players introduce themselves. And say where they played in college.

There are 505 NFL players that played in the SEC (all of these figures are pre- the latest realignment and ignore transfers), 381 from the Big 10, 307 from the ACC.

Kids want to see if they are really good enough, so they test themselves against the very best of their generation. That is the SEC. Same reason other kids test themselves by joining the Marines, taking organic chemistry, learning to play the oboe, going to flight school, and so on.

As long as the perception is that the best are in the SEC, it will also be a fact. The move of Texas and Oklahoma, both of which will right themselves very quickly, only makes this more true.

Those numbers clearly tell you that those 3 conferences provide plenty of players ...
I listen to them too and am amazed by how many are NOT from Major conferences.

 

[Jimbo]

Playoff Expansion is a go for 2024/25

Where is the college football national championship in 2025?

Atlanta will host another College Football Playoff national championship – this time the expanded version at Atlanta’s Mercedes-Benz Stadium on Jan. 20, 2025, following the 2024 season. Atlanta becomes the first city to repeat as a host destination for college football’s title game. Miami will...

www.ajc.com

Hosting the 1st Championship game is a Great thing, however, not as Great as it may seem .... there are only so many places being invited to be THE place.

What I dread is, if Georgia again is a top team in 2024/25, which I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be, but this means they would be playing a Championship game AT HOME ...
That doesn't seem right, but oh well.

Then again, that doesn't happen very often in the NFL, so maybe that means Georgia Won't make it .....

 

[Jimbo]

If the new rules were in play this year, assuming the strongest team wins it's conference championships, the playoff teams would be:

1 - Georgia (SEC Champion)
2 - Michigan (Big Ten Champion)
3 - TCU (Big XII Champion)
4 - USC (Pac12 Champion)
5 - Ohio State (Big Ten at-large)
6 - Alabama (SEC at-large)
7 - Tennessee (SEC at-large)
8 - Penn State (Big Ten at-large)
9 - Clempson (ACC Champion)
10 - Kansas State (Big XII at-large)
11 - Utah (PAC12 at-large)
12 - Tulane (AAC Champion)

*note* Washington & FSU could go above Kansas State & Utah based on whether they fall or not after loosing to TCU & USC.

And #18 Temple gets in ???? to a 12 team playoff ?
So the group of 5 gets to get beaten by the #1 or #5 team in the nation year in and year out ....

This isn't basketball where a team gets lucky and beats a higher rank team regularly .... theres a BIG difference between Football and Basketball, but those that choose won't wake up till its too late.
I suppose Tulane COULD knock off Georgia and make the path that much easier to the top for the rest ....
Nah, that ain't happening.

So an #18 team moves to the top 12, how does that 12th team deal with that ?

 

[Foxbat]

please remember that I’m feverish…

Regarding Ohio State as the Big Ten Championship heir-apparent, isn’t that what the Big Ten Championship Game is supposed to determine? If Purdue pulls off the upset, aren’t they the Big Ten Champions? If not, then what’s the freakin’ point of having a Championship Game (obviously money)?

Purdue should be the Big Ten Champion runner-up, not OSU.

 

[Derwin0]

And #18 Temple gets in ???? to a 12 team playoff ?
So the group of 5 gets to get beaten by the #1 or #5 team in the nation year in and year out ....

This isn't basketball where a team gets lucky and beats a higher rank team regularly .... theres a BIG difference between Football and Basketball, but those that choose won't wake up till its too late.
I suppose Tulane COULD knock off Georgia and make the path that much easier to the top for the rest ....
Nah, that ain't happening.

So an #18 team moves to the top 12, how does that 12th team deal with that ?

You forget that the highest 4 conference champions get a bye. So the lowest seed, in this case Tulane (not Temple) would play at #5 Ohio State.

Without the guarantee of 6 conference champions, they would never have gotten the approval of all the conferences.

Personally I think it should have been expanded to 16 conferences with 8 conference champions.

 

[Derwin0]

Purdue should be the Big Ten Champion runner-up, not OSU.

If they win their division and then the championship game, they are the champion and Michigan is the runner up. Ohio State is nothing because they failed to win their division and make it to the championship game.