Who's they, the NCAA?? The same group that let your boys play in the last Sugar Bowl instead of suspending them immediately??
They played because the Sugar bowl didn't want a marquee game with back ups.
NCAA says that Tressell is NOT "forthright"...
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They played because the Sugar bowl didn't want a marquee game with back ups.
Amen
However you KNOW thats not how it will go ....
People will continue to bitch about it whenever it's convenient for them.
The problem here is that instead of investigating and determining the outcome, it has been dragged on and on and on every month this year they have been bringing sh*t up .... mostly from the guys here.
It's really nauseating ....
Stuff does tend to get dragged out when the head coach lies to the NCAA, the assistant coaches claim to have never noticed, the AD pays everybody off, and the college president makes jokes.
Outlaw State could have made this all go away a long time ago, by admitting what it did, and proposing a punishment that fits its actions.
The excuses are all over this thread
Albert Means and Alabama/Auburn probation/punishments are running jokes in the State of Georgia
Which Is why I assume he was asking about Means, but I wanted to clarify.
As far as Means goes.
Albert Means - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Interesting, the AD PAID EVERYONE OFF ?
First I heard of that, who did he pay off , not the NCAA obviously ?
I don't even know who the assistant coach is ....
The excuses are all over this thread
Albert Means and Alabama/Auburn probation/punishments are running jokes in the State of Georgia
Who is Albert Means ?
Albert Means - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
More on it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Young
http://legacy.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/sports/050209/lang.shtml
Im surprised a fellow college football fan doesnt remember this. It was a big deal and came close to getting us the "death penalty" or at least there was alot of talk about it.
And it was pretty recent in that it all happened within the last decade of college football.
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This must have been hush hush, it's the first I heard of it. I've been following College ball since I was a kid.
Now, are you guys saying that the Buckeye situation is the same ?
If you are, I have nothing more to say ..... the Buckeyes didn't come anywhere near the money involved in this case with ALL that was done.
That is MUCH more serious than a kid selling jewelry and getting a few tatoos.
Oh, I know, the coach not telling the NCAA is worth Billions more.
Hush hush? It was a HUGE story. I dont know how you could have missed it.
And there is the excusing type posts I was talking about again. "well, it wasnt THAT bad". Yes jimbo, it really was. It may have been a different kind of scandal, but it was as bad when you consider your head coach was involved and tried to cover it up.
Money involved may not have been as high, but in our case it was a booster involved, and not as deep in the school itself.
In the case of OSU, it may very well be a lack of institutional control, which is what they went after us for.
This reminds me of an episode of cops where the cops see the guy committing the crime, they have it on tape, and after a lengthy foot chase, the criminal looks at the camera with a dumbfounded look while asking, "why were you chasing me? I didnt do anything!"
Gotta love it, theres that OVERUSED phrase every Buckeye hater wants to use again "lack of institutional control"
Odd, I don't see that in the dictionary, how do you KNOW exactly what that is ?
You can throw that out for just about anything, it's an OPINION.
You could use that for ANYTHING to suit your purpose.
Opps, I didn't see the 43rd player on the team when he jaywalked, that must mean he doesn't know whats going on , on his team, Lack of institutional control.
Opps, buddy gave me $ 20 to get pizza and beer .... again, illegal ... but its done everywhere on campus, all campuses.
I dont hate the Buckeyes, so I am not sure where you are getting that from. I guess anyone that doesnt make excuses for them is a hater now?
Also, lack of institutional control is not a new term for this situation, it was in use at least back to the Bama situation.
As for what it means, how else would you describe what is reported to have happened at OSU? The institution certainly didnt have a handle on the situation, because if they did, we wouldnt be having this conversation.
I guess you just didn't know where to look.
A quick Google search found this document. Institutional Control seems pretty well defined here:
http://compliance.pac-10.org/thetools/instctl.pdf
Every person out there thats NOT a Buckeye fan has voiced their opinion...
BTW, I'm not making excuses .... once I saw what had actually happened, several months after it happened, not the day/week it happened.
How am I making excuses for them, I quoted LONG ago how I felt about it ...
It was wrong, thats a no brainer, what I hate is all the piling on that goes on here and the lack of respect others have for others here.
Tell me, if a player gets $ 100 from a friend and goes out for the weekend, do you turn him in ?
