Yankee's Crying Poor Part II

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The New York City Industrial Development Agency's board of directors approved millions of dollars in new bonds for the Mets and Yankees so they could complete construction of their new stadiums. The bonds had become a bone of contention between the teams, particularly the Yankees, and lawmakers who thought that private companies shouldn't be benefitting from tax-exempt financing.

The quest for $370 million ($80 million for the Mets) in additional funds was the subject of childish sniping back and forth between Westchester Assemblyman Richard Brodsky and Yankees president Randy Levine all week long. In the end, actually long before the end, it seemed like a platform for Brodsky to raise his profile since the team and the city were so far down the road that denying the bonds simply wasn't going to happen.

Which, of course, doesn't mean that they should have gone through. Whatever your feeling about the initial handout of bonds from the city, cost overruns shouldn't come out of the city's pocket as well. As part of their defense of the money, the teams say they are paying for the construction, via servicing the bonds they were handed, which should mean they are responsible for getting the work done. There's also the sticking point that Jim Dwyer of the New York Times raised on Wednesday, namely that they city is responsible for plenty of auxillary building and demolition that will come directly out of tax revenues.
As mentioned, the teams are responsible for paying back the bonds, but will be exempt from property taxes as a result. There's a limited pool of borrowing the city has available and it's more than fair to ask if private baseball stadiums are the best use of that money. Especially when it seems that the city monkeyed around with how much the land was worth before getting the financing in the first place.

With today's vote, though, all those issues were moved off the stage. Look for them to return as we get closer to Election Day, though, when Mayor Bloomberg's opponents question how much he's doing for New York's average citizens compared to corporate ones.

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Money to blow on buying a world series but not enough to buld a stadium.

And the best part is most of it is tax exempt. Use the money you would have to pay property taxes to pay back the bonds.

SWEET!

Flame on!!
 
I've lost so much respect for the Steinbrenner crew.They are extorting the city for all those millions.It reminds me of the Sopranos bleeding their victims.We want city money.The taxpayers will have to cough up the $$$ & by the way they still won't be able to goto to the games because the average joe can't afford the price of admission for him and his family.Scr*w them & let the new stadium crumble into dust !!! That's my rant on the Steinbrenner mob.
 
Once, fans and taxpayers were protected. Stadiums were owned by teams, prices were low, games were on free TV, and players made reasonable middle class wages.

Because of the Reserve Clause. The greatest pro-fan and pro-taxpayer rule ever.
 
Because of the Reserve Clause. The greatest pro-fan and pro-taxpayer rule ever.

I HATED that thing.

Being basically chained to one team and one guy forever doesn't sound right to me.

Sam, you are like a Pony Express in a world of Air Mail. You need to get out of your black-and-white TV era mentality.
 
Are you freakin kidding me!

The New York City Industrial Development Agency's board of directors approved millions of dollars in new bonds for the Mets and Yankees so they could complete construction of their new stadiums. The bonds had become a bone of contention between the teams, particularly the Yankees, and lawmakers who thought that private companies shouldn't be benefitting from tax-exempt financing.

The quest for $370 million ($80 million for the Mets) in additional funds was the subject of childish sniping back and forth between Westchester Assemblyman Richard Brodsky and Yankees president Randy Levine all week long. In the end, actually long before the end, it seemed like a platform for Brodsky to raise his profile since the team and the city were so far down the road that denying the bonds simply wasn't going to happen.

Which, of course, doesn't mean that they should have gone through. Whatever your feeling about the initial handout of bonds from the city, cost overruns shouldn't come out of the city's pocket as well. As part of their defense of the money, the teams say they are paying for the construction, via servicing the bonds they were handed, which should mean they are responsible for getting the work done. There's also the sticking point that Jim Dwyer of the New York Times raised on Wednesday, namely that they city is responsible for plenty of auxillary building and demolition that will come directly out of tax revenues.
As mentioned, the teams are responsible for paying back the bonds, but will be exempt from property taxes as a result. There's a limited pool of borrowing the city has available and it's more than fair to ask if private baseball stadiums are the best use of that money. Especially when it seems that the city monkeyed around with how much the land was worth before getting the financing in the first place.

With today's vote, though, all those issues were moved off the stage. Look for them to return as we get closer to Election Day, though, when Mayor Bloomberg's opponents question how much he's doing for New York's average citizens compared to corporate ones.

Copyright NBC Local Media



Money to blow on buying a world series but not enough to buld a stadium.

And the best part is most of it is tax exempt. Use the money you would have to pay property taxes to pay back the bonds.

SWEET!

Flame on!!

LMAO!!!!!:up Truth be told, Yankee fans do not care.....they want steak and want NO PART in knowing how the cow was killed......
 
What is "wrong" about keeping one's word?

When people dislike something they often analogize it to something that is "past". Its a false argument. The rules against murder, rape, robbery, treason, etc, can all be described as "horse and buggy" rules. All are as good today as then.

Under the wonderful Reserve Clause, players made desent upper middle class livings. Ball teams were true private enterprises, not looking to taxpayers to build stadiums. Tickets were affordable. Games were on free TV.

It was a wonderful system where everyone prospered. Including the players.
 
I don't think any citizens should be responsible for sports teams and the money they need to build stadiums. If the teams want a new stadium then borrow the money or stay where you are now. If they want to move then move, I am tired of hold the city hostage for sports entertainment teams.
 
Under the wonderful Reserve Clause, players made desent upper middle class livings. Ball teams were true private enterprises, not looking to taxpayers to build stadiums. Tickets were affordable. Games were on free TV.

It was a wonderful system where everyone prospered. Including the players.

Ordinary players had to work during the off-season. Some of the Red Sox players worked in the ticket windows. I think Richie Hebner of the Pirates worked as a grave digger in the off-seasons in the early 1970s. The minumum wage back in the mid 1960s was $6,000. I had an uneducated cousin working on an assembly line in an auto parts factory who made a lot more than that.

Professional baseball players had rare entertainment talents and highly developed skils that proved to be worth a hundred times as much as they were getting paid for them.
 

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