Why is dish still missing games in HD?

[mike11]

New poster

Hello to everyone, long time and constant reader to the forumn but my first post. First I'd like to say Bravo to Bob, keep it going and maybe,just maybe your voice will be heard. I live in the MASN viewing area so of course I have to watch my two favorite teams is SD every game. (at least I don't have to play the guessing game every evening)
I try to keep an open mind and consider view points from both sides but much like Bob, for the life of me I can't understand why E* doesn't put forth the effort to provide the best possible product. No where in the ads do I see the disclaimer 'some of our HD channels are part time only'. It seems very underminding to advertise but not provide the product.

I'm hoping someone here can help with this. I didn't upgrade to HD until March of this year. I got the new dish and two 722s. At that time I thought about switching providers but didn't reasoning that Charlie would soon come through with MASN and MASN 2 in HD and the MLB network. Now I have my doubts. My question is from what I can gather by reading other treads here I think I made a two year commitment when I upgraded although I've checked and nothing I signed at the time of upgrade states this. Did I make a two year commitment? Thanks to all in advance to all who can shed some light on this.

Again hello to everyone here. I really enjoy the site.

 

[goaliebob99]

also I hear Directv has 20 HD, 26 HD and 50 HD in testing / coming soon.

will dish have them? 26 HD was been long requested on D* Viewing sports on 26 and 50 looks poor on D* but at least I can switch over to OTA to view them.

50 is now showing the Chicago Fire in HD. They made the commitment to it this year. I know the guy who does those games.

 

[goaliebob99]

Hello to everyone, long time and constant reader to the forumn but my first post. First I'd like to say Bravo to Bob, keep it going and maybe,just maybe your voice will be heard. I live in the MASN viewing area so of course I have to watch my two favorite teams is SD every game. (at least I don't have to play the guessing game every evening)
I try to keep an open mind and consider view points from both sides but much like Bob, for the life of me I can't understand why E* doesn't put forth the effort to provide the best possible product. No where in the ads do I see the disclaimer 'some of our HD channels are part time only'. It seems very underminding to advertise but not provide the product.

I'm hoping someone here can help with this. I didn't upgrade to HD until March of this year. I got the new dish and two 722s. At that time I thought about switching providers but didn't reasoning that Charlie would soon come through with MASN and MASN 2 in HD and the MLB network. Now I have my doubts. My question is from what I can gather by reading other treads here I think I made a two year commitment when I upgraded although I've checked and nothing I signed at the time of upgrade states this. Did I make a two year commitment? Thanks to all in advance to all who can shed some light on this.

Again hello to everyone here. I really enjoy the site.

You will find alot of usefull info here and thanks for posting!! It's High time that the coustmers take back our dish network service where as the Tea Party is taking back the country theroetically, (Only used for comparison please dont bring politics into this) Most likely you did make a commitiment.

 

[mike11]

Thanks Bob, I kind of assumed I was locked in for two years. I didn't make the move to HD for the longest time thinking I couldn't miss what I'd never had, and of course now I wonder why I waited so long. At around 7:05 every evening I kick mysef in the butt for not considering another provider more seriously. Like most everyone else that cares about this issue I've written and called several times. Is there anything else we can do at this point?

 

[sam_gordon]

It's High time that the coustmers take back our dish network service where as the Tea Party is taking back the country theroetically, (Only used for comparison please dont bring politics into this) Most likely you did make a commitiment.

ummm, it's not OUR Dish Network Service. It's Charlie's. He can offer (or not offer) any programming he wants. As far as WHY he doesn't offer the channels you want, I'm sure it comes down to $$. I'd like DIY to be on AT200. I know I could pay more for it, but I don't want to. So I've got a couple options... I can either :rant:every other day on a message board, I can email (or otherwise contact) Dish network. Or I can suck it up through my contract and then drop Dish.

Now, if I *KNEW* Dish didn't offer DIY on AT200, I've got no one to blame but myself for accepting the contract. I can't blame Dish. They're holding up their end of the bargin.

 

[mike11]

But they're not holding up their end of the bargin as long as they advertise the RSns as part of the 200 HD channels. They hold up their end when they tell the public " we have 160 HD channels and 40 more whenever we feel like it.

 

[goaliebob99]

ummm, it's not OUR Dish Network Service. It's Charlie's. He can offer (or not offer) any programming he wants. As far as WHY he doesn't offer the channels you want, I'm sure it comes down to $$. I'd like DIY to be on AT200. I know I could pay more for it, but I don't want to. So I've got a couple options... I can either :rant:every other day on a message board, I can email (or otherwise contact) Dish network. Or I can suck it up through my contract and then drop Dish.

Now, if I *KNEW* Dish didn't offer DIY on AT200, I've got no one to blame but myself for accepting the contract. I can't blame Dish. They're holding up their end of the bargin.

I'm pritty sure charlie's using public airwaves, that makes it our service, If that doesnt make it our service, paying for it does! BTW You all assume that I havent contacted dish about this, and I have.....

 

[goaliebob99]

Look the Washington post, is getting in on it too....

Looks like fios is guilty too, but at least their agreements have been signed..

Faster Forward - No HD for Strasburg: Pay TV as usual

No HD for Strasburg: Pay TV as usual
Nationals pitcher Stephen Strasburg's dazzling debut last night looked a little less dazzling to many Washington-area viewers.

Where the 21-year-old rookie's 14-strikeout performance represented the future, Verizon Fios and Dish Network's standard-definition broadcasts represented the past--the same old channel-bundle system that forces viewers to pay for channels they don't like while sometimes failing to provide the content they want. In this case, the desired content was a high-definition feed of the Nats' 5-2 win over the Pittsburgh Pirates, not the lower-resolution version served up by those two companies.

The immediate blame for that falls on the Mid-Atlantic Sports Network -- the regional firm owned in part by the Nationals but mostly by the Baltimore Orioles--that chose to reserve its primary channel for a Yankees-Orioles game that nobody will remember two months from now. (O's fans probably want to forget that 12-7 beatdown already.)

But Verizon paid to carry both MASN channels and then failed to clear space on its Fios TV system for the high-definition version of MASN2--yet still manages to carry HD versions of the QVC and HSN home-shopping channels. Dish, meanwhile, also signed up for MASN but has yet to transmit a single game in HD--perhaps because the necessary bandwidth had already been assigned to such fare as the Weather Channel HD and HLN (the former Headline News) HD.

(Comcast, Cox, DirecTV and RSN all provide both MASN channels in high-def. And all of these TV services, plus Verizon and Dish, offer the high-def version of the other big regional sports network, Comcast SportsNet.)

My far more productive colleague Dan Steinberg noted this problem last week, and readers were less than amused. Nor was the Dish-subscribing friend at whose house I watched the game.

Tuesday afternoon, Verizon spokesman Harry Mitchell e-mailed that MASN2 HD "is one of the channels we're looking to add to the FiOS TV lineup soon." How soon--July 4, the All-Star break, the September call-ups? Mitchell wouldn't say. Dish Network spokeswoman Francie Bauer did not reply to an e-mail.

But viewers shouldn't have to wait for these corporate games to settle out. MASN could follow the example of far too few other sports networks and allow local viewers with sufficient bandwidth to pay to watch games online. (Note that since I canceled my TV subscription last fall, this would be my preferred solution.) TV providers, meanwhile, could try to pay more attention to what viewers want--or they could let viewers vote with their credit cards by subscribing to certain channels and declining to pay for others, a feasible option on all-digital TV systems.

Until either of those things happens, the availability of your favorite channels in HD will remain a fine-print gotcha, as if shopping for TV service wasn't confusing enough. After you've compared channel bundles, their prices, their prices with and without Internet access and/or phone service, digital-video-recorder service fees, any DVR purchase costs, duration of new-customer discounts, odds of your ability to extend new-customer discounts, all of the above costs after those initial discounts expire--yes, you need to add yet another cell to your TV-service-choices spreadsheet.

 

[sam_gordon]

I'm pritty sure charlie's using public airwaves, that makes it our service, If that doesnt make it our service, paying for it does! BTW You all assume that I havent contacted dish about this, and I have.....

Actually he's not using public airwaves. "Public Airwaves" refers to point to point communications on Earth (ie: OTA TV & radio as well as other frequencies used for wireless microphones and such). The public doesn't own the satellite frequencies, nor the satellites.

As far as paying for it... you are getting what you are paying for. Now you might think you are entitled to more, but you're not.

I agree the counting of HD RSNs in the HD count is sneaky, but I learned LONG ago advertisers "stretch" the truth. This applies in every business, including satellite. "Trust but verify" comes to mind.

I never assumed you haven't contacted Dish. I just don't understand what you think your numerous threads on SatGuys will accomplish.

 

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Dish Network spokeswoman Francie Bauer did not reply to an e-mail.

Shocking

 

[goaliebob99]

I Just sent an Open email to Jim, Charlie, and others. Here is what it said...

All:

Attached is my letter to Charlie, and others in reguards to the dissapointing HDRSN situation on Dish Network. I hope that I can help Dish Network locate a solution to fix this issue as a growing number of coustomers are now wanting full time HDRSN's. This is also gaining steam in the media. If you have any questions, feel free to conatct me via email or at home at XXXXXXXXXX.
Thanks,

Robert

 

[mike11]

Bob's letter to E*brings up a good point and one I often wondered about. I've read hundreds of times on this site D* for sports, E* for movies. Why hasn't one of the two taken the steps necessary to try to corner the Market. It seems that with Charlie's superior equipment (I think this is the consensus among most), and his movie packages if he could fix the RSN mess and make a sincere effort to obtain the MLB network and ESPNU HD the gain in subscribers would far outweigh whatever investment had to be made to make this happen.
Another point, and I may be way off base here but it's my belief that if and when Dish's sports programing gets closer to the competitor's many people who now subscribe to the NFL package and/or Extra Innings would give that up to switch providers, this is the impression I get when I bring the topic up to a group.

 

[JerseyGuy]

Mets vs Orioles not in HD tonight. Maybe its on another satellite with all the New HD that I don't get

edited to say maybe I should have read Bobs letter to Dish LOL

 

[goaliebob99]

BTW my emails to Charlie and Jim bounced... If anyone has an email address to these two, that are known to work, I would like to forward this to them. Please PM me with that info.

Most people would have switched providers to Dish with the additon to the redzone channel, if they could have gotten their RSN's in HD. That would have made alot of happy humans out there. Because Dish didnt do it, it didnt happen.

 

[Mr Tony]

uh Bob

Its ARC....like what Noah built (when you say Western Arc & Eastern Arc)
Its not ARCH...like what is in front of MIckey D's

 

[goaliebob99]

uh Bob

Its ARC....like what Noah built (when you say Western Arc & Eastern Arc)
Its not ARCH...like what is in front of MIckey D's

That's what I get for running spell check! Thanks!

 

[Bobby]

and Bob, it's regards, not reguards. Your spell check isn't worth sh*t....

 

[Mr Tony]

and I screwed up too since Noah built an ARK

 

[Joe The Dragon]

BTW my emails to Charlie and Jim bounced... If anyone has an email address to these two, that are known to work, I would like to forward this to them. Please PM me with that info.

Most people would have switched providers to Dish with the additon to the redzone channel, if they could have gotten their RSN's in HD. That would have made alot of happy humans out there. Because Dish didnt do it, it didnt happen.

you should also add that RSN over flows need to have fixed channel numbers as well. Also tell dish to pick up all CSN CHI + HD feeds as well.

 

[bf3000]

Mets vs Orioles not in HD tonight. Maybe its on another satellite with all the New HD that I don't get

edited to say maybe I should have read Bobs letter to Dish LOL

And the ironic thing is, Dish Network advertises right behind home plate at Camden Yards for all home O's games....maybe someday they will add MASNHD and MASN2HD.