I know of places that don't even have Verizon DSL yet.What are we talking about, advances in fiber technology or the rollout of fiber to all homes? I never said that fiber technology won't make advances, all I've said it won't make the penetration levels that you're saying. Show me some facts that it shows ANY company saying they're going to roll out fiber to all their customers for the entire country. Hell, just show me something that says Version is going to roll out FIOS to all their customer premises.