Why is Channel 240 not on the Eastern Arc?

[springdale_sam]

Well it's a good channel so they'll probable take it away from all of us eventually

 

[Juan]

You dont get charged for the PI programming.

but PI's get charged for customers who can't see their signal!!!

 

[Tampa8]

I'll give you this. You are quite the story spinner and make up stuff quite well. Get charged by who? Dish makes nothing on those, get it?

 

[Bobby]

but PI's get charged for customers who can't see their signal!!!

I don't think that is true. Nobody gets charged for these channels, originator or subscriber. The FCC mandates that a certain amount of PI channels get to have free air time as requirement to supply all the paid channels.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

but PI's get charged for customers who can't see their signal!!!

PI's dont get charged.

 

[englishtycoon]

You still don't get it. From the posts I see, people are trying to get programming from 61.5. That is NOT supposed to be. Dish does not support getting all programming using some sats from one ARC , and some from another. What don't you get about that?? You know that, yet don't want to acknowledge it. And I have acknowledged Dish should not be selling you a package that includes channels not on 119/110.
Dish should offer SD only to you, from the 119/110 sats. Because that is all you can reliably see. HD may not be really possible because so much is on 129.

But none of this has anything to do with this thread. You need to get another provider. Get Direct TV.

You don't get it

my question to Mary was why is it a free channel when its on one arc, but will become a pay channel when its on both and what is the reasoning behind that. If they charged
for it in its current form one arc would get it, one would not but they would be charged for it.

With regards to the 61.5, many people in PR have had it for years and were grandfathered in and receive a signal, new subscribers are blocked unless they use a fake address. The one dish solution is a new thing, we always had to have separate dish for 110 and 119 until recently.

Again like I think you said in another thread, We should have our own package that is priced accordingly to the service we get. If they sell us a package that is supposed to have 250 channels and we only get 200, there is something wrong.

 

[harshness]

The Public Interest Channels are FCC Mandated and DISH must carry so many PI channels per slot that they are licensed for. DISH is NOT required to carry any PI channels on satellites it rents transponder space from.

I'm not convinced that this is an accurate interpretation. I believe the broadcast license lies with DISH Network, not the lessor. As such, it doesn't matter who owns the satellite, just who is currently licensed to use it and who had jurisdiction over the coverage area that is being licensed.

It is notable that language in the code (USC Title 47, Section 335) speaks to Ku capacity which may be how DIRECTV is getting around meeting the requirements for 4-7% PI content in their Ka slots.

 

[dwarren2]

There is at least one channel on the EA not on the WA also. EuroNews. (it's on 118.7 also while it could be called an international channel, it is in English, and is available A La Carte)

118.7 is on the EARC? I thought EARC is 61.5 72 and 77. I don't see it anywhere on my guide.

 

[CK SatGuy]

118.7 is on the EARC? I thought EARC is 61.5 72 and 77. I don't see it anywhere on my guide.

Yeah, 118.7 is not EA. I don't know why he was thinking that.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

I'm not convinced that this is an accurate interpretation. I believe the broadcast license lies with DISH Network, not the lessor. As such, it doesn't matter who owns the satellite, just who is currently licensed to use it and who had jurisdiction over the coverage area that is being licensed.

The PI rules are not in place when the company is leasing satellite space. This is the way it has been explained to me.

 

[Juan]

I'll give you this. You are quite the story spinner and make up stuff quite well. Get charged by who? Dish makes nothing on those, get it?

PI's pay to be carried

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

PI's do not get paid to be carried.

Please post your proof.

 

[Juan]

PI's do not get paid to be carried.

Please post your proof.

give me a bit to find a link..I believe they are required to pay for uplink facilities etc but not "to be carried" per se

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

The PI channels must pay to get their signal to DISH, then DISH picks up the rest of the costs from there.

The channels are not paid by DISH nor do they pay DISH for coverage.

 

[navychop]

Shopping channels pay Dish to be carried. Maybe we can get more shopping channels for PI!

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Shopping channels do not qualify as PI programming.

 

[Juan]

Shopping channels do not qualify as PI programming.

i saw the website for "The Pursuit Channel" most of the programming looked to be sponsored (i.e.cabella's) hunting shows..How is that different from a shopping channel?

 

[MaryB@SlingTV]

I would like to apologize, when the Pursuit Channel was first placed on our directory it was listed as a "Public Interest Channel". It has been changed to a shopping channel. It is a part the free access channel that Dish Network broadcast's. (Which means if your service is disconnected for say non-payment, this channel would continue to broadcast as a "Free Access" channel).
240 PURSUIT (HUNT) CHANNEL (HUNT) N/A 119 15 SHOPPING

 

[boddah44]

I would like to apologize, when the Pursuit Channel was first placed on our directory it was listed as a "Public Interest Channel". It has been changed to a shopping channel. It is a part the free access channel that Dish Network broadcast's. (Which means if your service is disconnected for say non-payment, this channel would continue to broadcast as a "Free Access" channel).
240 PURSUIT (HUNT) CHANNEL (HUNT) N/A 119 15 SHOPPING

But only to Western Arc subscribers, right?

 

[MaryB@SlingTV]

But only to Western Arc subscribers, right?

Yes, currently only on 119 Satellite, but Dish Network is working on adding it to the eastern arc.