Why doesn't everyone just 'move'?

[jgoldsmith]

Hi All,

I've been coming to this forum for the last week trying to get info on this DNS issue. I was hoping to find a magic solution, but no such luck so far...

So, here's a stupid question (and please no throwing of tomatoes!), what's preventing me from just "moving" my service address to NYC if that's where I want to get my DNS from? I understand that some DMAs are now spotbeamed and so you can't get them if your dish physically isn't in the place you're claiming it is, but I don't think NYC is spotbeamed. Is it? What's the flaw to this plan?

Also, where's a link to a map to see these "white areas" I keep hearing about?

Thanks!
JAG

 

[MikeD-C05]

The New York distants big 4 nets are still on conus beam and the HD versions are on 61.5 on conus beam. So if you "move" and want both you would have to have both a dish 500 and a side dish to 61.5. Be warned though that your guide will be set to New York or Eastern time. Also be sure that your address will pass muster at the dishnetwork address broker.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Just understand that some or all of the channels could be moved to Spotbeams at any time.

 

[tracyt]

Hi All,

Also, where's a link to a map to see these "white areas" I keep hearing about?

Thanks!
JAG

That is my question also.....
IS there a map or a website to check an address????

 

[Hall]

It makes it hard to explain when a piece of equipment goes out and the technician will be dispatched to say, NYC, and you really live in Pittsburgh PA or if they will send you a replacement to send it to a different address.

 

[jgoldsmith]

Also be sure that your address will pass muster at the dishnetwork address broker.

You mean that it's a real address?

 

[jgoldsmith]

It makes it hard to explain when a piece of equipment goes out and the technician will be dispatched to say, NYC, and you really live in Pittsburgh PA or if they will send you a replacement to send it to a different address.

Up until last week, our Service Address and our Billing Address were in two different states and we never had any issues. Although we did that change in the opposite direction - keeping old Service Address and putting new Billing Address.

 

[DishDave]

Wish i had a friend in Miami so i could move to get Miami Locals

 

[dishrich]

what's preventing me from just "moving" my service address to NYC if that's where I want to get my DNS from? I understand that some DMAs are now spotbeamed and so you can't get them if your dish physically isn't in the place you're claiming it is

First of all, if you quest is to get full network prog from somewhere, think OUTSIDE the DNS box. Do your networks HAVE to be NY or LA? You could "move" your account to a DMA close by your actual physical location. (of course, since we DON'T know WHERE you are in your profile, so it's hard for me to suggest a DMA to "move" to ) The spotbeams on all DMA's have spillover outside their intended markets, as well as many spotbeams actually contain multiple markets. Many movers on here do NOT move for CONUS networks, (like RV'ers require) but just to be able to get service from a more "metropolitan" market with a FULL complement of network affiliates.

In my instance, I "moved" my D* service to Chicago since I started up with them. The spotbeams reach me fine, even though I'm 2 DMA's away from Chicago. I have clients that have moved to either Chicago or St.Louis, depending on personal preference, as well as which RSN they desire. (your RSN is also based on your physical addy as well ) So in my instances, it makes NO difference about these locals already being on spotbeams, as they STILL work for us anyway - as opposed to moving to NY or LA & then E* moves them to spotbeams. (BTW, IMHO I don't think this will happen with the NY or LA distants, but I could be wrong)

 

[dishrich]

Wish i had a friend in Miami so i could move to get Miami Locals

Why DO you need a friend - most movers DON'T...
Just search around here for tips on finding an addy to move to...

 

[Hall]

Up until last week, our Service Address and our Billing Address were in two different states and we never had any issues.

They still will expect the service guy to go to your service address. When they had to send someone out and you explained the location difference, what did they say ??

 

[bowens]

The spotbeams on all DMA's have spillover outside their intended markets, as well as many spotbeams actually contain multiple markets.

Is there a map somewhere of what areas spotbeams cover? I have a sister in Ft. Lauderdale and she can receive Miami locals in HD. I'm about 5 hours north of her. That would be sweet if I could get all those locals in HD.

 

[jayn_j]

Is there a map somewhere of what areas spotbeams cover? I have a sister in Ft. Lauderdale and she can receive Miami locals in HD. I'm about 5 hours north of her. That would be sweet if I could get all those locals in HD.

Try working off this link
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/satmaps.htm

This shows the center points of each of the spot beams and contains links to each of the sats that has more detailed footprints

 

[Mr Tony]

or just go to www.dishchannelchart.com andn look up the locals near you
see what transpnioder they're on (spotbeams would be the 1st number...ie 12s36)
check signal strength for said transponder on receiver setup screen

 

[MikeD-C05]

You mean that it's a real address?

Yes I would make sure it is a real address and then add an apartment number to it to make it yours. I always use a movie theater address and then add an apartment number to it. It works.

 

[mikew]

If you want to find an address without an apartment number:

Go to www.zillow.com
Enter a zip code of homes to search
Zoom the map onto a long street in the city
Look at the addresses of two, side by side, houses.
Use the address between them.

That being said...HI NAB...how's it going today?

Seeing the quotes used here in some of the recent court filings, I don't know that I'd want to be quoted as saying I'm getting distants because I "moved". The NAB could turn into the RIAA. Subpoena the IP addresses from this site in part of their crackdown of movers. The day will come.

 

[jgoldsmith]

They still will expect the service guy to go to your service address. When they had to send someone out and you explained the location difference, what did they say ??

We never needed service on our dish itself that we couldn't fix ourselves or get an independent installer tech to fix.

 

[rdinkel]

Hi All,

What's the flaw to this plan?


Thanks!
JAG

To some of us, honesty and integrity are too important to trade for TV signals--even though we would really like to have HD networks!

 

[KingofKaty]

To some of us, honesty and integrity are too important to trade for TV signals--even though we would really like to have HD networks!

Hello to the NAB lawyers!

"Moving" to obtain out of market satellite signals is not unique to Dish Network. I'm sure there are Direct TV customers who do it as well. There is virtually no way for the satellite providers or anyone to stop it.

These are customers who are willing to bend or break the rules so they can buy your product! The local broadcast franchise system that the NAB is protecting is a relic of the 1940s. Your business model needs to change. Why can't you understand this?

There is a commercial solution to this problem. Rather than fighting with Dish Network and its customers, the lawyers should urge their clients to work out an equitable commercial solution to the problem.

PLEASE - try to find a way to legally offer some type of distant network programming to ALL Dish Network customers.

 

[downriver]

Okay. I lost my DNS at my home here in Southern Oregon. We also have a home in Horse Creek, in the Siskiyou Mountains, around 150 miles by road but probably no more than 50 in a straight line. A Dish web search reveals that location is indeed eligible for DNS service. I do not have satellite service at this time in Horse Creek but do have an address. Can I use this as a service address, keep my Oregon service and get the DNS, and not install a dish down in Horse Creek??????? That is assuming that Dish will eventually offer DNS again.