What I'll miss about HD-DVD

SKrueger

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I'm really really glad the format war is over, but there is one thing I'll miss about HD-DVD and that's Warner's combo disks.

With hardware still running high I'm only going to buy 1 Blu-ray player now, just can't afford to buy multiple players at this point and time. So if I buy a Blu-ray disk it's limited to being viewed in one room only. I would really like to see something like Warner's combo disk for Blu-ray. Here's hoping.
 
It would be cheaper, and better (for the consumer) to just package a separate DVD in with the BluRay. Some combo disks in some HDDVD players/firmware are not without their problems. It would probably be the same for BD. The movie studios would probably not allow this though. They'd say you were getting two copies and giving one to a friend - therefore "stealing" - even though they would have charged you extra money to buy the BD version that included that second disk. Sigh.
 
There were a small, vocal minority of people bitching about combos. Most of them worked fine.

No, it is not cheaper to buy two copies of a movie. Better for the consumer? What kind of math is that.
 
I for one won't miss Universal's combos. I had a lot of trouble towards the end. Never had a problem with Warner's, except for the Happy Feet Glitch which was addressed.

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There were a small, vocal minority of people bitching about combos. Most of them worked fine.

No, it is not cheaper to buy two copies of a movie. Better for the consumer? What kind of math is that.
You sound like one of those people who say, "Well, it worked for ME. It didn't work for YOU? That makes you a vocal minority of bitching people. You don't deserve to get what you paid for because you're in the minority." Mr. Spock would spontaneously nerve pinch you for that kind of logic.

My experience with combo disks is limited to three movies. One would not play the HD side at all, I watched the SD side. The other wouldn't play the HD side the first time, so I watch SD. The second time we tried it, the HD side played however. The third movie played both sides just fine. I have the latest firmware in my A2.

And I wasn't saying the consumer should buy two separate copies of the movie and pay the movie studios profits on each copy. I was saying that the movie studios should package both an HD and SD copy in the same box, and only increase the cost of this "combo" by their cost to make the SD copy (sans profit - take their profit off the selling price of the HD half). About 50 cents. Of course they'd never do this, but if they did, it would certainly be "better for the consumer".
 
You sound like one of those people who say, "Well, it worked for ME. It didn't work for YOU? That makes you a vocal minority of bitching people. You don't deserve to get what you paid for because you're in the minority." Mr. Spock would spontaneously nerve pinch you for that kind of logic.

My experience with combo disks is limited to three movies. One would not play the HD side at all, I watched the SD side. The other wouldn't play the HD side the first time, so I watch SD. The second time we tried it, the HD side played however. The third movie played both sides just fine. I have the latest firmware in my A2.

And I wasn't saying the consumer should buy two separate copies of the movie and pay the movie studios profits on each copy. I was saying that the movie studios should package both an HD and SD copy in the same box, and only increase the cost of this "combo" by their cost to make the SD copy (sans profit - take their profit off the selling price of the HD half). About 50 cents. Of course they'd never do this, but if they did, it would certainly be "better for the consumer".

You sound like the guys who say "It didn't work for me. There must be a systemic problem". Either way we don't have any stats that I know of that are credible for determining the error rate of the combo disks so it is of little use for both of you to be arguing over this. Fact is BD isn't winning many $$$ right now (per WSJ, Economist etc) because of its pricing in a poor economic environment and absent competition to drive further marketing initiatives. We can all go about our business and be happy that the war is over and in the next few years we may have a legit competitor format to dvd.
 
My experience with combo disks is limited to three movies. One would not play the HD side at all, I watched the SD side. The other wouldn't play the HD side the first time, so I watch SD. The second time we tried it, the HD side played however. The third movie played both sides just fine. I have the latest firmware in my A2.

And I wasn't saying the consumer should buy two separate copies of the movie and pay the movie studios profits on each copy. I was saying that the movie studios should package both an HD and SD copy in the same box, and only increase the cost of this "combo" by their cost to make the SD copy (sans profit - take their profit off the selling price of the HD half). About 50 cents. Of course they'd never do this, but if they did, it would certainly be "better for the consumer".

My experience with combo discs is limited to about 50 or so discs I've bought or rented from Netflix plus the ones I own. I own about 15 of them including Universal, Warner and Mack Dawg Productions. I also own 2 standalone HD DVD players plus a combo unit. I'm not denying problems. I'm simply stating that people who had problems will be more vocal than the many that did not.

3rd Degree included a copy of Dreamgirlz on SD DVD along with the HD DVD. Leave it to a porn company to do things the right way. They are now charging more for what is essentially a catalog copy of that same movie on Blu-Ray and not including the SD DVD--likely due to increased authoring and replication costs.
 

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