What if the NFL used Harbin Point System instead of only W-L?

[Ramy]

Yeah... I triple checked my formula for the weighting system for an unbalanced schedule (8 games v 9). It all came down to L3. Statistically the Colts and Bengals are a dead heat. 9ers and Saints have played teams that have very few victories themselves. To put things in perspective, the Chiefs have won every one of the their games. The Bengals only 6 games. However the teams these guys have beaten have the same total of victories among them! IOW, the Bengals have beaten "better" teams than the Chiefs.
Again, this is all for fun. Unlike the HS or College teams this system is supposed to rate, all NFL teams are "equal" in that they have the same pool to choose from "enrollment" is the same, divisions are equal.
One of these days I may add a "points vs victories" differential that would weight the standings to offensive output and defensive capability.

oh... and the Bengals did beat the Jets.

Beat them down!

 

[Teehar]

Yeah... I triple checked my formula for the weighting system for an unbalanced schedule (8 games v 9). It all came down to L3. Statistically the Colts and Bengals are a dead heat. 9ers and Saints have played teams that have very few victories themselves. To put things in perspective, the Chiefs have won every one of the their games. The Bengals only 6 games. However the teams these guys have beaten have the same total of victories among them! IOW, the Bengals have beaten "better" teams than the Chiefs.
Again, this is all for fun. Unlike the HS or College teams this system is supposed to rate, all NFL teams are "equal" in that they have the same pool to choose from "enrollment" is the same, divisions are equal.
One of these days I may add a "points vs victories" differential that would weight the standings to offensive output and defensive capability.

oh... and the Bengals did beat the Jets.

I meant the Jets being ahead of the Packers,Lions,and even Panthers.I'll give ya the Cowgirls. The Colts should be way ahead of the Bungals,they have beaten the 49ers,Seahawks,and Broncos,that has to count for more.

 

[TNGTony]

The thing about computer standing is that they take away the "this accomplishment has to count for something" arguments. All that counts is wins and losses by you and vanquished opponents.
An interesting development here in Ohio D2 SW region proves the point. We covered a game where one team (NW) got crushed by another (Harrison) last week. But the way the points broke, Northwest won the home field advantage in the first round of the tournament. They will be hosting the team that beat them (into tiny knight meatballs) only last week!

Rank	W-L	ID #	City	School	Average	Level 1	Level 2	L2 divisor	Playoff Status (unofficial)
1	10-0	904	Loveland	Loveland	37.0000	61.5	308.5	100	clinched #1 seed
2	9-1	1074	Cincinnati	Mount Healthy	27.2000	52.5	219.5	100	clinched home game
3	8-2	1719	Cincinnati	Winton Woods	23.9711	45.5	184.5	95	clinched home game
4	8-2	1164	Cincinnati	Northwest	20.1000	45.5	155.5	100	clinched home game
5	7-3	696	Harrison	Harrison	19.4500	40.5	154.0	100	clinched playoff spot
6	7-3	810	Kings Mills	Kings	18.4919	43.0	140.5	99	clinched playoff spot
7	8-2	1720	Cincinnati	Withrow	17.9000	42.5	136.5	100	clinched playoff spot
8	6-4	292	Vandalia	Butler	14.3586	35.0	107.5	99	clinched playoff spot

 

[Jimbo]

The thing about computer standing is that they take away the "this accomplishment has to count for something" arguments. All that counts is wins and losses by you and vanquished opponents.
An interesting development here in Ohio D2 SW region proves the point. We covered a game where one team (NW) got crushed by another (Harrison) last week. But the way the points broke, Northwest won the home field advantage in the first round of the tournament. They will be hosting the team that beat them (into tiny knight meatballs) only last week!

Rank	W-L	ID #	City	School	Average	Level 1	Level 2	L2 divisor	Playoff Status (unofficial)
1	10-0	904	Loveland	Loveland	37.0000	61.5	308.5	100	clinched #1 seed
2	9-1	1074	Cincinnati	Mount Healthy	27.2000	52.5	219.5	100	clinched home game
3	8-2	1719	Cincinnati	Winton Woods	23.9711	45.5	184.5	95	clinched home game
4	8-2	1164	Cincinnati	Northwest	20.1000	45.5	155.5	100	clinched home game
5	7-3	696	Harrison	Harrison	19.4500	40.5	154.0	100	clinched playoff spot
6	7-3	810	Kings Mills	Kings	18.4919	43.0	140.5	99	clinched playoff spot
7	8-2	1720	Cincinnati	Withrow	17.9000	42.5	136.5	100	clinched playoff spot
8	6-4	292	Vandalia	Butler	14.3586	35.0	107.5	99	clinched playoff spot

As it turns out, my team Toledo Whitmer DID make the playoffs after a tough start to the season.
They are in Division 1 I believe.

They played several TOP teams out of Detroit to start the season and lost both I believe, so we'll see how they do in the Ohio Playoffs.
They play Hudson (Cleveland area) on Friday iirc.
I wish these games were on TV somewhere.
Toledo Central will also be a force again this year.

 

[TNGTony]

As it turns out, my team Toledo Whitmer DID make the playoffs after a tough start to the season.
They are in Division 1 I believe. I wish these games were on TV somewhere.
Toledo Central will also be a force again this year.

Keep an eye on this thread in "Yappi"
http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259524

Looks like these games will be on tV
8 Defiance @ 1 Toledo Central Catholic - 7:30 PM - WONW-AM (1280) http://wonw1280.com; WPFX-FM (107.7) http://1077wolf.com
Video: BCSN http://bcsnvision.tv (tape delay at 11:30 PM)
14 Toledo Whitmer @ 3 Hudson
Video: BCSN http://bcsnvision.tv (tape delay at 3:30 AM Sunday)

The game is on Saturday @ 7pm. Live TV is tough because of the expense. This site only shows the first playback, but it has links to the TV station so you can get other playback times.
I think TWC/Fox Sports Ohio have exclusive on live coverage of tournament. They also have "first dibs" on the games.

In D1 (Whitmer) there are only two divisions so the top 16 make it. This is how Whitmer got in. Same thing happened with "my" team in the south division. Both your team and mine will probably get their asses handed to them in the first or second round.

 

[TNGTony]

Bears help Saints tie it up with the 9ers.

"--------	Win	Loss	L1	L1 Average	L2	L2 Average	Average	Weighted
Chiefs--	9	0	45	5.000	135	1.500	6.500	6.500
Seahawks	8	1	40	4.444	120	1.333	5.778	5.778
Patriots	7	2	35	3.889	110	1.222	5.111	5.111
Broncos	7	1	35	4.375	100	1.250	5.625	5.000
Bengals	6	3	30	3.333	135	1.500	4.833	4.833
Colts---	6	2	30	3.750	130	1.625	5.375	4.778
49ers---	6	2	30	3.750	90	1.125	4.875	4.333
Saints	6	2	30	3.750	90	1.125	4.875	4.333
Jets----	5	4	25	2.778	90	1.000	3.778	3.778
Lions---	5	3	25	3.125	90	1.125	4.250	3.778
Packers	5	3	25	3.125	80	1.000	4.125	3.667
Bears---	5	3	25	3.125	80	1.000	4.125	3.667
Cowboys	5	4	25	2.778	65	0.722	3.500	3.500
Panthers	5	3	25	3.125	40	0.500	3.625	3.222
Dolphins	4	4	20	2.500	90	1.125	3.625	3.222
Chargers	4	4	20	2.500	75	0.938	3.438	3.056
Titans	4	4	20	2.500	70	0.875	3.375	3.000
Browns	4	5	20	2.222	65	0.722	2.944	2.944
Cardinals	4	4	20	2.500	60	0.750	3.250	2.889
Eagles	4	5	20	2.222	40	0.444	2.667	2.667
Bills	3	6	15	1.667	60	0.667	2.333	2.333
Redskins	3	5	15	1.875	60	0.750	2.625	2.333
Ravens	3	5	15	1.875	50	0.625	2.500	2.222
Rams-----	3	5	15	1.875	30	0.375	2.250	2.000
Raiders	3	5	15	1.875	30	0.375	2.250	2.000
Texans	2	6	10	1.250	40	0.500	1.750	1.556
Steelers	2	6	10	1.250	40	0.500	1.750	1.556
Giants	2	6	10	1.250	25	0.313	1.563	1.389
Falcons	2	6	10	1.250	15	0.188	1.438	1.278
Vikings	1	7	5	0.625	10	0.125	0.750	0.667
Jaguars	0	8	0	0.000	0	0.000	0.000	0.000
Buccs	0	8	0	0.000	0	0.000	0.000	0.000

 

[Jimbo]

Keep an eye on this thread in "Yappi"
http://www.yappi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=259524

Looks like these games will be on tV
8 Defiance @ 1 Toledo Central Catholic - 7:30 PM - WONW-AM (1280) http://wonw1280.com; WPFX-FM (107.7) http://1077wolf.com
Video: BCSN http://bcsnvision.tv (tape delay at 11:30 PM)
14 Toledo Whitmer @ 3 Hudson
Video: BCSN http://bcsnvision.tv (tape delay at 3:30 AM Sunday)

The game is on Saturday @ 7pm. Live TV is tough because of the expense. This site only shows the first playback, but it has links to the TV station so you can get other playback times.
I think TWC/Fox Sports Ohio have exclusive on live coverage of tournament. They also have "first dibs" on the games.

In D1 (Whitmer) there are only two divisions so the top 16 make it. This is how Whitmer got in. Same thing happened with "my" team in the south division. Both your team and mine will probably get their asses handed to them in the first or second round.

Maybe, maybe not ...

Whitmer had a rough beginning this year after going to the playoffs and advancing the last 4-5 years, made the finals last year, but as happens, lost alot of players to graduation, took awhile for the new kids to gell, but the look to be playing better now at the right time of the year.
We'll see, sometimes they do well other times they go down quickly.

Had it not been for losing all the players they did, they would have been much higher again ...

Toledo Central is the one from this area I expect to go far this year.

Thanks for the link.

As for the TV, I don't get BCSN seeing I have Directv, bcsn is a local sports network on the local cable company, I see the game is scheduled to show at 3 am, I doubt that I will be up to watch and have no way to record it.

Now, Fox Sports Ohio is another option, I was able to see games that way last year, however, it is pretty much centered on the Cleveland area as thats where the network is from.
Whitmer was on FS Ohio for thier last two games last year in the playoffs.
One a win and the last one a loss, I believe it was the final game of the year.
I always thought that they played the Finals at the Horseshoe, but apparently not, I believe it was in like Akron or there abouts, thus giving the Cleveland team a decided advantage in support.

Whitmer spent billions on a first class field and improvements to host playoff games, but I don't think they have been able to play there yet.

I know they were hoping to host different rounds of playoffs there, not sure if it's happened or not.

 

[TNGTony]

Ohio HS finals have been played in Massilon and Canton for decades, much to the displeasure of the southern half of Ohio. Joke is that the OHSAA thinks the state line is a line that runs from Just north of Oxford (Talawanda school dist) through, Middletown, Wilmington and Athens, to Marietta.
All 7 Championship final games will be on Fox Sports Ohio/Time Warner Cable (in southern Ohio) starting Thursday after TG through Sat. They have exclusive rights. Starting in 2015 the finals move to Crew Stadium in Columbus for a "trial run".
As I mentioned before BGSC will playback the game many times. 3 am is just the first scheduled playback.
As the tournament progresses in the next 5 weeks, the choices get smaller and smaller and I'm sure if Whitier (a definite underdog) survives the first two rounds, it will be featured for the last three.

 

[Jimbo]

I wonder what the Harbin System would look like for the top 10 in College football this year ?

 

[TNGTony]

More fun numbers after week 11.
I must be bored because I am currently compiling the game scores to do a scoring differential.

"--------	Win	Loss	L1	L1 Average	L2	L2 Average	Average	Weighted
Broncos	9	1	45	4.500	200	2.000	6.500	5.909
Chiefs--	9	1	45	4.500	170	1.700	6.200	5.636
Seahawks	10	1	50	4.545	180	1.636	6.182	5.620
Saints	8	2	40	4.000	180	1.800	5.800	5.273
Bengals	7	4	35	3.182	175	1.591	4.773	4.773
Colts---	7	3	35	3.500	170	1.700	5.200	4.727
Patriots	7	3	35	3.500	150	1.500	5.000	4.545
Panthers	7	3	35	3.500	135	1.350	4.850	4.409
Lions---	6	4	30	3.000	145	1.450	4.450	4.045
Bears---	6	4	30	3.000	130	1.300	4.300	3.909
49ers---	6	4	30	3.000	110	1.100	4.100	3.727
Eagles	6	5	30	2.727	105	0.955	3.682	3.682
Cardinals	6	4	30	3.000	100	1.000	4.000	3.636
Dolphins	5	5	25	2.500	120	1.200	3.700	3.364
Jets----	5	5	25	2.500	115	1.150	3.650	3.318
Packers	5	5	25	2.500	95	0.950	3.450	3.136
Cowboys	5	5	25	2.500	95	0.950	3.450	3.136
Bills	4	7	20	1.818	105	0.955	2.773	2.773
Chargers	4	6	20	2.000	95	0.950	2.950	2.682
Steelers	4	6	20	2.000	95	0.950	2.950	2.682
Ravens	4	6	20	2.000	90	0.900	2.900	2.636
Titans	4	6	20	2.000	85	0.850	2.850	2.591
Browns	4	6	20	2.000	85	0.850	2.850	2.591
Giants	4	6	20	2.000	85	0.850	2.850	2.591
Rams-----	4	6	20	2.000	80	0.800	2.800	2.545
Raiders	4	6	20	2.000	55	0.550	2.550	2.318
Redskins	3	7	15	1.500	70	0.700	2.200	2.000
Texans	2	8	10	1.000	40	0.400	1.400	1.273
Vikings	2	8	10	1.000	35	0.350	1.350	1.227
Buccs	2	8	10	1.000	35	0.350	1.350	1.227
Falcons	2	8	10	1.000	30	0.300	1.300	1.182
Jaguars	1	9	5	0.500	20	0.200	0.700	0.636

 

[TNGTony]

Though I don't like it because it drops my Bengals several slots, this may be a little more accurate rating. It takes into account the "score differential". A percentage of points scored vs points allowed is added to the raw score giving me these results. I'll try a few other permutations.
Once again, the idea behind this is to rate teams with equal W-L records.

"--------	Win	Loss	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total	Weighted	Weighted Total
Chiefs--	9	1	4.500	1.700	6.200	0.937	7.137	5.636	6.573
Broncos	9	1	4.500	2.000	6.500	0.559	7.059	5.909	6.468
Seahawks	10	1	4.545	1.636	6.182	0.709	6.891	5.620	6.329
Saints	8	2	4.000	1.800	5.800	0.574	6.374	5.273	5.846
Patriots	7	3	3.500	1.500	5.000	0.683	5.683	4.545	5.229
Panthers	7	3	3.500	1.350	4.850	0.763	5.613	4.409	5.172
Bengals	7	4	3.182	1.591	4.773	0.335	5.108	4.773	5.108
Colts---	7	3	3.500	1.700	5.200	0.145	5.345	4.727	4.873
49ers---	6	4	3.000	1.100	4.100	0.388	4.488	3.727	4.115
Lions---	6	4	3.000	1.450	4.450	0.008	4.458	4.045	4.053
Bears---	6	4	3.000	1.300	4.300	0.056	4.356	3.909	3.965
Eagles	6	5	2.727	0.955	3.682	0.062	3.743	3.682	3.743
Cardinals	6	4	3.000	1.000	4.000	0.009	4.009	3.636	3.646
Dolphins	5	5	2.500	1.200	3.700	-0.053	3.647	3.364	3.310
Packers	5	5	2.500	0.950	3.450	0.079	3.529	3.136	3.216
Cowboys	5	5	2.500	0.950	3.450	0.062	3.512	3.136	3.198
Jets----	5	5	2.500	1.150	3.650	-0.317	3.333	3.318	3.001
Chargers	4	6	2.000	0.950	2.950	0.027	2.977	2.682	2.709
Bills	4	7	1.818	0.955	2.773	-0.136	2.637	2.773	2.637
Ravens	4	6	2.000	0.900	2.900	-0.019	2.881	2.636	2.617
Titans	4	6	2.000	0.850	2.850	0.004	2.854	2.591	2.595
Steelers	4	6	2.000	0.950	2.950	-0.118	2.832	2.682	2.563
Rams-----	4	6	2.000	0.800	2.800	0.000	2.800	2.545	2.545
Browns	4	6	2.000	0.850	2.850	-0.193	2.657	2.591	2.398
Giants	4	6	2.000	0.850	2.850	-0.307	2.543	2.591	2.284
Raiders	4	6	2.000	0.550	2.550	-0.211	2.339	2.318	2.107
Redskins	3	7	1.500	0.700	2.200	-0.177	2.023	2.000	1.823
Buccs	2	8	1.000	0.350	1.350	-0.211	1.139	1.227	1.016
Vikings	2	8	1.000	0.350	1.350	-0.250	1.100	1.227	0.977
Texans	2	8	1.000	0.400	1.400	-0.301	1.099	1.273	0.972
Falcons	2	8	1.000	0.300	1.300	-0.267	1.033	1.182	0.915
Jaguars	1	9	0.500	0.200	0.700	-0.594	0.106	0.636	0.042

 

[Ramy]

Do you still have season tickets Tony?

 

[TNGTony]

Yup! On my 20th year with season tickets.

 

[TNGTony]

One hell on a week in the NFL! The Sunday night game was insane!
Here are my current standings, only Redskins and 49ers have weighted scores since they don't play until tomorrow

"--------	Win	Loss	Tie	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total	Weighted	Weighted Total
Seahawks	10	1	0	4.545	1.909	6.455	0.709	7.164	6.455	7.164
Broncos	9	2	0	4.091	2.000	6.091	0.496	6.587	6.091	6.587
Saints	9	2	0	4.091	1.864	5.955	0.556	6.511	5.955	6.511
Chiefs--	9	2	0	4.091	1.682	5.773	0.508	6.281	5.773	6.281
Patriots	8	3	0	3.636	1.909	5.545	0.601	6.147	5.545	6.147
Panthers	8	3	0	3.636	1.591	5.227	0.709	5.936	5.227	5.936
Bengals	7	4	0	3.182	1.682	4.864	0.335	5.199	4.864	5.199
Colts---	7	4	0	3.182	1.682	4.864	0.012	4.875	4.864	4.875
Cardinals	7	4	0	3.182	1.364	4.545	0.139	4.684	4.545	4.684
49ers---	6	4	0	3.000	1.300	4.300	0.388	4.688	3.909	4.297
Lions---	6	5	0	2.727	1.455	4.182	-0.003	4.178	4.182	4.178
Bears---	6	5	0	2.727	1.273	4.000	-0.019	3.981	4.000	3.981
Cowboys	6	5	0	2.727	1.091	3.818	0.068	3.886	3.818	3.886
Eagles	6	5	0	2.727	1.000	3.727	0.062	3.789	3.727	3.789
Chargers	5	6	0	2.273	1.364	3.636	0.035	3.671	3.636	3.671
Rams-----	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	0.082	3.446	3.364	3.446
Titans	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	0.020	3.384	3.364	3.384
Ravens	5	6	0	2.273	1.045	3.318	0.056	3.374	3.318	3.374
Packers	5	5	1	2.273	1.000	3.273	0.072	3.344	3.273	3.344
Dolphins	5	6	0	2.273	1.136	3.409	-0.065	3.344	3.409	3.344
Steelers	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	-0.051	3.313	3.364	3.313
Jets----	5	6	0	2.273	1.182	3.455	-0.352	3.103	3.455	3.103
Bills	4	7	0	1.818	1.045	2.864	-0.136	2.728	2.864	2.728
Browns	4	7	0	1.818	0.818	2.636	-0.234	2.402	2.636	2.402
Giants	4	7	0	1.818	0.773	2.591	-0.292	2.299	2.591	2.299
Raiders	4	7	0	1.818	0.636	2.455	-0.208	2.246	2.455	2.246
Redskins	3	7	0	1.500	0.750	2.250	-0.177	2.073	2.045	1.869
Buccs	3	8	0	1.364	0.591	1.955	-0.182	1.772	1.955	1.772
Vikings	2	8	1	0.909	0.400	1.309	-0.231	1.078	1.309	1.078
Texans	2	9	0	0.909	0.455	1.364	-0.311	1.052	1.364	1.052
Falcons	2	9	0	0.909	0.364	1.273	-0.265	1.007	1.273	1.007
Jaguars	2	9	0	0.909	0.318	1.227	-0.562	0.666	1.227	0.666

 

[dishcomm]

Whenever I listen to people talking about NFL football, the conversation invariably turns to how tough one team's schedule is versus other teams in different conferences and divisions. I haven't been motivated enough to play with the numbers, to compute the standings, but I wonder if it wouldn't be more interesting to the fans if playoff berths weren't determined strictly by W-L records, but by you W-L AND how difficult your schedule really was, the Harbin Point System. Of course there would be no L3 points or divisors since everyone is at the same level.

For those not familiar with the Harbin system, it was devised by Coach Harbin here in Ohio to figure out why some undefeated High School teams would not make it to the state championships. It is an ingenious calculation that nearly always predicts the better team in a match, and is great to use for seeding a play-off bracket.

Basically you get a certain amount of points for a win. You get a certain amount of points for a win by a team you beat in the same season. Divide the points by the number of games and you have your team average score. You get no points for a loss and no points if a team you beat loses to other opponents. After a few weeks you get to see a separation among teams that may have identical W-L records.

What would this mean for the league? Teams that really have a rough schedule still have a shot at the playoffs even with crappier records. It would keep more people interested in the playoff hunt all the way to the very last games. It is highly unlikely a team with a great record would get screwed because of the limited league, meaning that L2 points would be guaranteed at some point. But if your whole division sucks, your 6-0 division record won't be worth as much as a win against a division that is otherwise undefeated!

Just a fun exercise. I know it will never happen, but it's fun to think about who would edge who out if difficulty of schedule were a factor.

UGH..Lets not get complicated.

 

[TNGTony]

It's really not all that complicated. Once again, this would be to differentiate teams with equal W/L records, and it's just for fun. This week there are two pair of teams with statistically identical scores. Only a few thousands of a point separate them.

After one of the most boring MNF of the season (no more weighting needed since all teams are at 11 games played):

"--------	Win	Loss	Tie	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total
Seahawks	10	1	0	4.545	1.955	6.500	0.709	7.209
Broncos	9	2	0	4.091	2.000	6.091	0.484	6.575
Saints	9	2	0	4.091	1.909	6.000	0.556	6.556
Chiefs--	9	2	0	4.091	1.682	5.773	0.508	6.281
Patriots	8	3	0	3.636	1.909	5.545	0.576	6.122
Panthers	8	3	0	3.636	1.636	5.273	0.709	5.981
Bengals	7	4	0	3.182	1.682	4.864	0.335	5.199
49ers---	7	4	0	3.182	1.318	4.500	0.489	4.989
Colts---	7	4	0	3.182	1.727	4.909	0.012	4.921
Cardinals	7	4	0	3.182	1.364	4.545	0.139	4.684
Lions---	6	5	0	2.727	1.455	4.182	-0.003	4.178
Bears---	6	5	0	2.727	1.273	4.000	-0.019	3.981
Cowboys	6	5	0	2.727	1.091	3.818	0.068	3.886
Eagles	6	5	0	2.727	1.000	3.727	0.062	3.789
Chargers	5	6	0	2.273	1.364	3.636	0.035	3.671
Rams-----	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	0.082	3.446
Titans	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	0.020	3.384
Ravens	5	6	0	2.273	1.045	3.318	0.056	3.374
Packers	5	5	1	2.273	1.000	3.273	0.072	3.344
Dolphins	5	6	0	2.273	1.136	3.409	-0.065	3.344
Steelers	5	6	0	2.273	1.091	3.364	-0.051	3.313
Jets----	5	6	0	2.273	1.182	3.455	-0.352	3.103
Bills	4	7	0	1.818	1.045	2.864	-0.136	2.728
Browns	4	7	0	1.818	0.818	2.636	-0.234	2.402
Giants	4	7	0	1.818	0.773	2.591	-0.292	2.299
Raiders	4	7	0	1.818	0.636	2.455	-0.208	2.246
Redskins	3	8	0	1.364	0.682	2.045	-0.225	1.821
Buccs	3	8	0	1.364	0.591	1.955	-0.182	1.772
Vikings	2	8	1	0.909	0.400	1.309	-0.231	1.078
Texans	2	9	0	0.909	0.455	1.364	-0.311	1.052
Falcons	2	9	0	0.909	0.364	1.273	-0.265	1.007
Jaguars	2	9	0	0.909	0.318	1.227	-0.562	0.666

 

[TNGTony]

Week 13 ratings:

"--------	Win	Loss	Tie	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total
Seahawks	11	1	0	4.583	2.375	6.958	0.709	7.668
Broncos	10	2	0	4.167	2.417	6.583	0.464	7.047
Panthers	9	3	0	3.750	1.875	5.625	0.815	6.440
Patriots	9	3	0	3.750	1.958	5.708	0.502	6.211
Saints	9	3	0	3.750	1.958	5.708	0.357	6.065
Chiefs--	9	3	0	3.750	1.708	5.458	0.393	5.851
Bengals	8	4	0	3.333	1.833	5.167	0.335	5.502
Colts---	8	4	0	3.333	1.958	5.292	0.040	5.332
49ers---	8	4	0	3.333	1.458	4.792	0.508	5.299
Lions---	7	5	0	2.917	1.583	4.500	0.098	4.598
Cardinals	7	5	0	2.917	1.458	4.375	0.113	4.488
Cowboys	7	5	0	2.917	1.333	4.250	0.086	4.336
Eagles	7	5	0	2.917	1.250	4.167	0.062	4.228
Dolphins	6	6	0	2.500	1.375	3.875	0.016	3.891
Ravens	6	6	0	2.500	1.250	3.750	0.060	3.810
Bears---	6	6	0	2.500	1.333	3.833	-0.027	3.806
Chargers	5	7	0	2.083	1.417	3.500	0.007	3.507
Rams-----	5	7	0	2.083	1.083	3.167	0.040	3.206
Steelers	5	7	0	2.083	1.083	3.167	-0.054	3.113
Packers	5	6	1	2.083	1.045	3.129	-0.036	3.093
Titans	5	7	0	2.083	1.000	3.083	-0.011	3.072
Jets----	5	7	0	2.083	1.167	3.250	-0.390	2.860
Giants	5	7	0	2.083	0.917	3.000	-0.255	2.745
Bills	4	8	0	1.667	1.083	2.750	-0.136	2.614
Browns	4	8	0	1.667	0.875	2.542	-0.222	2.319
Raiders	4	8	0	1.667	0.625	2.292	-0.210	2.082
Buccs	3	9	0	1.250	0.667	1.917	-0.239	1.678
Vikings	3	8	1	1.250	0.636	1.886	-0.210	1.676
Redskins	3	9	0	1.250	0.625	1.875	-0.229	1.646
Falcons	3	9	0	1.250	0.500	1.750	-0.232	1.518
Jaguars	3	9	0	1.250	0.458	1.708	-0.506	1.203
Texans	2	10	0	0.833	0.417	1.250	-0.288	0.962

 

[TNGTony]

After Week 14

"--------	Win	Loss	Tie	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total
Broncos	11	2	0	4.231	2.654	6.885	0.493	7.377
Seahawks	11	2	0	4.231	2.423	6.654	0.709	7.363
Saints	10	3	0	3.846	2.346	6.192	0.412	6.604
Patriots	10	3	0	3.846	2.154	6.000	0.449	6.449
Chiefs--	10	3	0	3.846	1.769	5.615	0.518	6.133
Panthers	9	4	0	3.462	1.962	5.423	0.585	6.008
Bengals	9	4	0	3.462	2.154	5.615	0.335	5.950
49ers---	9	4	0	3.462	1.962	5.423	0.477	5.900
Colts---	8	5	0	3.077	1.923	5.000	-0.009	4.991
Cardinals	8	5	0	3.077	1.654	4.731	0.187	4.918
Eagles	8	5	0	3.077	1.538	4.615	0.062	4.677
Lions---	7	6	0	2.692	1.615	4.308	0.045	4.353
Bears---	7	6	0	2.692	1.615	4.308	0.022	4.330
Dolphins	7	6	0	2.692	1.577	4.269	0.036	4.305
Ravens	7	6	0	2.692	1.385	4.077	0.065	4.142
Cowboys	7	6	0	2.692	1.308	4.000	0.026	4.026
Chargers	6	7	0	2.308	1.615	3.923	0.086	4.009
Packers	6	6	1	2.308	1.125	3.433	-0.031	3.402
Rams-----	6	7	0	2.308	1.115	3.423	-0.029	3.394
Jets----	6	7	0	2.308	1.346	3.654	-0.329	3.324
Steelers	5	8	0	1.923	1.077	3.000	-0.067	2.933
Titans	5	8	0	1.923	1.038	2.962	-0.082	2.880
Giants	5	8	0	1.923	0.923	2.846	-0.293	2.553
Bills	4	9	0	1.538	1.115	2.654	-0.136	2.518
Browns	4	9	0	1.538	0.885	2.423	-0.207	2.216
Buccs	4	9	0	1.538	0.808	2.346	-0.162	2.185
Raiders	4	9	0	1.538	0.654	2.192	-0.217	1.976
Jaguars	4	9	0	1.538	0.500	2.038	-0.460	1.579
Vikings	3	9	1	1.154	0.625	1.779	-0.203	1.576
Redskins	3	10	0	1.154	0.654	1.808	-0.290	1.518
Falcons	3	10	0	1.154	0.538	1.692	-0.221	1.471
Texans	2	11	0	0.769	0.423	1.192	-0.286	0.907

 

[TNGTony]

This is the first week where the strength of schedule actually makes a difference in the standings. In a few circumstances, teams with more wins are actually ranked a little lower. If you beat all the teams you play, but they don't have 10 wins among them, you will be ranked lower than a team with more losses than you but their wins come against teams that beat everyone else!

"--------	Win	Loss	Tie	L1 Average	L2 Average	Average	Differential	Total
Seahawks	12	2	0	4.286	2.643	6.929	0.709	7.638
Broncos	11	3	0	3.929	2.607	6.536	0.438	6.974
Saints	10	4	0	3.571	2.464	6.036	0.330	6.365
Panthers	10	4	0	3.571	2.214	5.786	0.577	6.363
Chiefs--	11	3	0	3.929	1.821	5.750	0.553	6.303
49ers---	10	4	0	3.571	2.143	5.714	0.531	6.245
Patriots	10	4	0	3.571	2.143	5.714	0.390	6.105
Bengals	9	5	0	3.214	2.179	5.393	0.335	5.728
Cardinals	9	5	0	3.214	1.857	5.071	0.175	5.247
Colts---	9	5	0	3.214	1.929	5.143	0.060	5.202
Dolphins	8	6	0	2.857	1.964	4.821	0.047	4.869
Bears---	8	6	0	2.857	1.786	4.643	0.038	4.681
Ravens	8	6	0	2.857	1.643	4.500	0.069	4.569
Chargers	7	7	0	2.500	1.964	4.464	0.103	4.567
Eagles	8	6	0	2.857	1.500	4.357	0.062	4.419
Lions---	7	7	0	2.500	1.714	4.214	0.037	4.252
Rams-----	7	7	0	2.500	1.500	4.000	0.006	4.006
Packers	7	6	1	2.500	1.423	3.923	-0.025	3.898
Cowboys	7	7	0	2.500	1.286	3.786	0.021	3.806
Steelers	6	8	0	2.143	1.393	3.536	-0.033	3.503
Jets----	6	8	0	2.143	1.321	3.464	-0.330	3.135
Bills	5	9	0	1.786	1.286	3.071	-0.136	2.936
Titans	5	9	0	1.786	1.071	2.857	-0.082	2.775
Giants	5	9	0	1.786	0.929	2.714	-0.336	2.378
Vikings	4	9	1	1.429	0.962	2.390	-0.146	2.244
Browns	4	10	0	1.429	0.929	2.357	-0.204	2.153
Buccs	4	10	0	1.429	0.857	2.286	-0.204	2.082
Falcons	4	10	0	1.429	0.679	2.107	-0.204	1.904
Raiders	4	10	0	1.429	0.679	2.107	-0.249	1.858
Redskins	3	11	0	1.071	0.679	1.750	-0.274	1.476
Jaguars	4	10	0	1.429	0.464	1.893	-0.446	1.447
Texans	2	12	0	0.714	0.429	1.143	-0.325	0.818

 

[TNGTony]

So, in my make-believe playoff race if the season were to end today here are the teams that would make it to the play-offs. No byes, 16 teams in 4 week play-off. This week's numbers aren't complete and there could be a little change lower in these 16 teams depending on tomorrow's game.

Seahawks	12	3	0	4.000	2.633	6.633	0.709	7.343	6.633
Broncos	12	3	0	4.000	2.667	6.667	0.486	7.152	6.667
Panthers	11	4	0	3.667	2.533	6.200	0.561	6.761	6.200
Patriots	11	4	0	3.667	2.400	6.067	0.512	6.578	6.067
49ers---	10	4	0	3.571	2.286	5.857	0.531	6.388	5.857
Saints	10	5	0	3.333	2.433	5.767	0.296	6.063	5.767
Bengals	10	5	0	3.333	2.367	5.700	0.335	6.035	5.700
Chiefs--	11	4	0	3.667	1.867	5.533	0.450	5.983	5.533
Cardinals	10	5	0	3.333	2.267	5.600	0.193	5.793	5.600
Colts---	10	5	0	3.333	2.267	5.600	0.107	5.707	5.600
Chargers	8	7	0	2.667	2.133	4.800	0.139	4.939	4.800
Dolphins	8	7	0	2.667	2.233	4.900	-0.016	4.884	4.900
Eagles	9	6	0	3.000	1.733	4.733	0.062	4.795	4.733
Bears---	8	7	0	2.667	1.800	4.467	0.038	4.505	4.467
Rams-----	8	7	0	2.667	1.600	4.267	0.036	4.302	4.267
Ravens	8	7	0	2.667	1.633	4.300	-0.047	4.253	4.300

16 Ravens @ 1 Seahawks -------
9 Chiefs @ 8 Cardinals -----------

4 Eagles @ 13 Patriots -------
5 Dolphins @ 12 49ers
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15 Rams @ 2 Broncos ---------
10 Colts @ 7 Bengals ---------------

14 Bears @ 3 Panthers ---------
11 Chargers @ Saints