Dish Network carries both 5 and 9. I can get both over the air. It is the sub channels that are different. V-me here and create in Santa Fe. The portales channel used to be on central time when it first started on DirecTV. My parents used to get 2 different channel 3s from Portales. The hd feed was different from the SD feed on DirecTV. My boxes could never get 2 of them.