With Dish's announcements that MPEG-4 is coming this year and all new HD programming will require MPEG-4 receivers, I guess we won't be living with the 811 bugs much longer. All the talk has been about the HD DVRs (and with the $$$ invested, that's understandable,) but just like the 5000 w/HDTV modulator, the 6000 and 811 will be joining the 921 and 942 on the trash heap of obsolescence. I don't feel too bad about the 6000, since I've had that for many years, and the the 811 I got for $149 a little under a year, that should be good for another year, too.