VIP211k doesn't see EHD after disconnect.

[Dee_Ann]

For the past few days I was getting a lot of HD channel signal loss where it would fall back to an SD channel. Ugh!

So the other night I walked out and put my hand on the dish and found that it was loose, we've been in a drought and the yard is very dried up and cracked badly.
As the dirt dries out the pole gets loose. So I put a garden house out there to wet the ground and it tightened back up. But I still had no signal on 129.
So I went into the tuner setup and told it to disconnect the EHD. It told me it was safe to remove the disk which I did. BTW, it's a 2TB disk that has been working fine for over a year and a half and was working just fine moments before I told it to disconnect.

So I take the tuner out into the yard and realign the dish and once again it sees all three dishes (I have three separate BIG dishes) and was getting all the channels as it should.

I bring the tuner back into the house and plug everything in and power up. The EHD disk light is blinking rapidly and the tuner does not see it. Yet?

Is it going through a long disk check before it will allow it to reattach? Every single morning it goes through like 4-5 disk checks, acquiring the signals, downloading updates and the guide that all in all from start to finish takes just under 2 hours, I guess it's because the disk has a LOT of stuff on it and that it's 2tb.

Please tell me that it's just going through a painfully slow disk check before it reattaches itself???????? :
The tuner does not recognize it as of now and I can't do any pause, rewind, recording stuff. And the pathetic little one day guide is very annoying..

I do not believe the disk is bad, it was working perfectly earlier. I can't afford to replace the disk and I really will be sick to my stomach if I've lost a year and a half of recordings!

Also, is there anyway to back up your EHD recordings?

Thanks..

 

[Teehar]

It kind of sounds like the hard drive is going bad,or has already.

 

[dwarren2]

Unplug everything. Plug the 211 in and let it boot up. Then plug in the ehd. It should see and reboot again. Then you should have use of it.

 

[Dee_Ann]

It kind of sounds like the hard drive is going bad,or has already.

I don't understand.. It was working perfectly up until the moment I removed it.
I followed procedure and went through the menus to remove it gracefully from the system.

Now it isn't recognized. WTH???

And all my recordings? GONE?????

If they are gone I'm going to be really frickin angry...

And if this is the case, when I get this thing working again, I'm going to find a way to transfer the recordings into MY MEDIA. I do not like the Dish walled garden. Not having a way to backup your stuff is not cool.
I've seen a gadget you can buy that plugs into pretty much anything, passes the video through and allows you to save it into your Mac.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008ZT8QKO/?tag=satell01-20

I'm getting one. I'm quite unhappy to have lost a year and a half worth of recordings!
I'll get a small 500gb (or less) disk to replace this one because I won't be keeping much on it anymore. From now on it goes into my PC.

This won't happen again.

Unfortunately I can't do anything about this until after the 20th..

 

[Dee_Ann]

Nope....


I tried three USB disk docking stations and it's the same with all of them.

I found some old disks that have stuff on them from an old PC and popped them into the docks. The tuner popped up a box and said the disk wasn't formatted and asked me if I wanted to format it.
I said no and ejected the disks. So it sees other disks but the one with all my stuff on it, is dead.

The tuner killed it.

That's ok. Plan B....

 

[Dee_Ann]

I put a disk that I KNOW is bad, it was in my security camera PVR and it failed last month and I had to replace it so I know for 100% certain that it's bad. But the minute I popped it in the tuner saw it and asked me if I wanted to format it. I went ahead and told it yes. I figure it will flag a lot of it as bad and that's fine, I just need to be able to have a decent 10 day guide and pause, rewind ability until I can order a new replacement disk in a few weeks along with the PVR recorder gadget. It's a get by for now.

So it's painfully obvious that the tuner killed the other disk and I've lost ALL those recordings. I'm very unhappy about that....

Come to think of it, I'm going to put the smallest disk I can find in as a replacement, that two hour disk check every morning is really annoying..

 

[dwarren2]

Did you try what I suggested? When I had a 211, if I disconnected the ehd I had to first restart the 211 then add the ehd. It would then reboot. It had to do that so that it can use the ehd as a dvr.

 

[KAB]

Did you try what I suggested? When I had a 211, if I disconnected the ehd I had to first restart the 211 then add the ehd. It would then reboot. It had to do that so that it can use the ehd as a dvr.

It's DEE....so probably not. She'd rather rant than take suggestions/positive steps. Let her fade out.

 

[boba]

It's DEE....so probably not. She'd rather rant than take suggestions/positive steps. Let her fade out.

Ice has got to be sorry he ever sold his 211.

 

[Bobby]

Ice has got to be sorry he ever sold his 211.

And we are as well...

 

[Teehar]

Hell hath no fury as a dish woman scorned!

Seriously,I hope the disk isn't bad Dee,but I don't have any other ideas as to what it could be.I don't know if windows would see the drive under disk management,but you could try that.I'm thinking that linux would see it if it isn't toast.

 

[dwarren2]

I forgot it was Dee. Maybe she will calm down and try what I said. I had a 211 before I upgraded to the Hopper. By trial and error, I found that the procedure I posted seemed to work. If I had a power failure, it would see the ehd when the power came back on.

 

[Bobby]

I forgot it was Dee. Maybe she will calm down and try what I said. I had a 211 before I upgraded to the Hopper. By trial and error, I found that the procedure I posted seemed to work. If I had a power failure, it would see the ehd when the power came back on.

I'll have what he's having!

 

[KAB]

I forgot it was Dee. Maybe she will calm down and try what I said.

Then, I'll meet you at the MOON BASE Holiday Inn Bar.

 

[Dee_Ann]

Did you try what I suggested? When I had a 211, if I disconnected the ehd I had to first restart the 211 then add the ehd. It would then reboot. It had to do that so that it can use the ehd as a dvr.

I tried multiple times.

 

[Dee_Ann]

Hell hath no fury as a dish woman scorned!

Seriously,I hope the disk isn't bad Dee,but I don't have any other ideas as to what it could be.I don't know if windows would see the drive under disk management,but you could try that.I'm thinking that linux would see it if it isn't toast.

The disk was in a docking station. I plugged it into a little laptop I have that runs Mint Linux. It does not recognize the disk. One time when I first got the tuner I plugged the same disk & docking station into the same laptop out of curiosity and it did recognize it. I was able to browse the disk but it was all apparently encrypted by Dish so you can't copy recordings from it. How nice of them.


I've given up and written it off as a total loss. For now I've set the dead disk in a drawer. I'm shopping for the things I need to prevent this ever happening again.

I found a 160gb disk for $29 on Amazon. I already have the docking station. Three of them actually.

I'm going to buy the Hauppage PVR box and the OSX software from Amazon for about $150.

With a small disk it won't allow me to record a year of stuff. It will allow me to record for a few weeks before I have to dump it into the PVR connected to my Mac.
I'll keep the little disk cleaned out so it won't do a two hour disk check every morning. This will not happen again..

 

[KAB]

Nighty, Night, Dee!

 

[KAB]

The disk was in a docking station. .

On this, I will give you benefit of a doubt. If the docking station being a BlackX or the like, you have to JAM the HD into them. Easy to think it's seated, but very well likely, NOT. Will never buy another one.

 

[dwarren2]

Rather than a docking station, try a powered external hard drive, if you have one. That's what I've always used as an ehd on my 722, 211 and now HWS;s.