Vets step forward. I'm sick of Rambo patriots

[jayn_j]

I've got a phrase called Rambo Patriots. If you recall, Sylvester Stallone spent his military eligible years hiding behind deferments and making porn flicks. Once he was safe from the chance of combat, he went right out and produced the Rambo series of movies. The series glorified war and Stallone became a spokesperson for patriotism.

When I hear a lot of extreme super-patriot Bullsh!t, the first thing I ask is whether this person knows squat about it, or if he is a Rambo patriot.

I'm calling you all out. I will respectively listen and discuss these topics with any veteran. IMHO, the rest of you are blowing smoke, and will get ignored.

Please, will the vets please step forward. Branch,Rank, S/N and years of service.
(OK, maybe we can skip the SN)

I'll start it off:

USAF SSgt FR68067259 1969-1972
Forbes AFB Kansas, Grand Forks AFB, ND, 3 mo Vietnam TDY.

 

[TheTimm]

When I hear a lot of extreme super-patriot Bullsh!t, the first thing I ask is whether this person knows squat about it, or if he is a Rambo patriot.

I'm calling you all out. I will respectively listen and discuss these topics with any veteran. IMHO, the rest of you are blowing smoke, and will get ignored.

I ignore people who are close-minded just because someone doesn't fit their ideas of what a patriot should be.

But I do appreciate everyone who served this country.

 

[Diamond Jim]

USAF SSgt FR68067259 1969-1972
Forbes AFB Kansas, Grand Forks AFB, ND, 3 mo Vietnam TDY.

Hey, you have to respect this guy for being at Grand Forks no matter what else he did. Jayn, you weren't by any chance in Security Police were you? If you were you command respect.

 

[mperdue]

USAF SrA 1973-1977 S/N FR (withheld because it contains my SSN)
31652H Minuteman Missile Electronic Equipment Specialist
321st Strategic Missile Wing, Grand Forks AFB, N D

Mario

 

[raymo721]

I think I already started a thread like this months ago, but here goes anyway. Army, SFC, 1970-1981 Active Duty. MSG 4yrs Army Reserve. And, uh depending on where you were and what you were doing at the time, 3mo in Vietnam could feel like a lifetime.---Ray

 

[VIPERS-PIT]

USAF SGT
1990-1992
F E Warren AFB
Cheyenne Wyo
Computer Ops
Top Secret SIOP-ESI
we used our SSN number as ID

SO what are we talking about? besides Rambo being a joke?

 

[rdinkel]

US Navy, CAPTAIN (O-6), 26 years, retired. Been there; done that (1967-1993). So, what is the point of this thread?

 

[vurbano]

I ignore people who are close-minded just because someone doesn't fit their ideas of what a patriot should be.

But I do appreciate everyone who served this country.

Agreed.

 

[Budfan]

Vet

US Navy 1965-1969 ATR E-5 served aboard USS America with attack squadron VA-87. Lost some good friends in Nam. Not a big fan of draft dodgers and movie stars who think they can portray the vet that has served his country during a war. When the shoot is over the movie star goes home and relaxes--the vet is still dodging bullets and shrapnel!

 

[dragon002]

i know what you mean, but , tom hanks did a great job.

 

[VIPERS-PIT]

Nam vets tend to NEVER leave country in their minds. My uncle is still hunted EVER DAY of his life from what he went through there. And he earend the privledge of getting spit on and called baby killer when he came home. Frekin liberal hippie scum!!

 

[John W]

I did not serve. I was too young for the draft. I will say that it is one of my largest regrets in life that I never joined the Armed Forces. In high school I was one of the top ranked cross country and track runners in the country. I went to college on scholarship for athletics. I did look into joining the military but my father would hear none of it and made me feel like athletics and college were my only choices. I have told him how upset I am with him for basically forbidding me to go into the military. Now that I am a father of 4 (2 boys) I do know where he was coming from, especially after the debacle in Vietnam about a decade before. I will never discourage my sons (or daughters for that matter) from joining the military. In fact I have told my eldest son that it is something he can take into consideration. If a draft were ever to come back again I would do everything in my power to keep them from "draft dodging". I don't want to ever lose a son but we do have a duty to serve and protect our country.

Sorry for the long post but basically I want to say, please don't look down upon those of us who never served. In some cases we may have been misguided.

 

[John W]

Nam vets tend to NEVER leave country in their minds. My uncle is still hunted EVER DAY of his life from what he went through there. And he earend the privledge of getting spit on and called baby killer when he came home. Frekin liberal hippie scum!!

One of my clients and close friend served in Nam. He generally won't talk about it but you can see that there is something different going on in his head. He has told me about some of the things that happened and the horror I feel from some of that just by hearing it let alone living it is unbelievable. I have the utmost respect for anyone who has seen action, no matter how much it fugazied them

 

[dragon002]

fugazied??????????

 

[T2k]

I ignore people who are close-minded just because someone doesn't fit their ideas of what a patriot should be.

But I do appreciate everyone who served this country.

I'm on the same page.

 

[John W]

fugazied??????????

I probably didn't quite use it correctly but.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fugazi

 

[chadzx11]

USMC Cpl
*sn# same as SSN, I'm not posting THAT, no way*
1992-1997
1992 MCRD---San Diego
1992 MCT-----Camp Pendleton
1993 MCCES-Twentynine Palms
----------->Field Radio Operator Course, 2531
----------->Multi Channel Operator Course, 2532
1993 US Army Signals School---Ft Gordon, Ga
----------->Ground Mobile Forces Tactical Satellite Operator Course, 2536
1993- 1994 7th Comm Bn, Camp Hansen, Okinawa
1994- 1997 8th Comm Bn, Camp Lejeune, NC
1997 Camp Giger, NC (TAD)
------------>Nuclear, Chemical, and Biological Warfare Monitor/Survey Course (non MOS training)

 

[Kentstater72]

Kent State University (68-72)

Supporter of our President

 

[dragon002]

Kent State University (68-72)

Supporter of our President

were you there during the shootings??

 

[Kentstater72]

were you there during the shootings??

Yes.