It would take a very large increase to bring Dish up to ridiculous rate that the few remaining Adelphia subs are paying in my neighborhood. I am quite happy with AT120 plus locals, one 301 and one 508, all for ~$44/mo. For a comparable package Adelphia subs have the privalege of paying ~$60/mo, and that is before the utility tax imposed by the City of Moreno Valley. Add cable internet and you are in the stratosphere - that service alone is about $42/mo. Currently I only need dialup, but I sit here in envy of those lucky folks in an SBC phone area where you can bundle phone, DSL, and Dish. Moreno Valley is served by Verizon, which is a good company but higher priced than SBC for the same services. The bundles aren't as good either. DSL is only $29.95 if you sign up for one year which is only $20 more a month than what I am paying for Juno dialup. It is very tempting but doesn't match SBCs current radio ad for $19.95/mo for DSL. That would be WAY too good to pass up!