Uplink Activity Wednesday, October 26th 2005

Mpeg-2 is how the video is encoded. The video/audio is the DATA that is being carried by the qpsk signal. Thus, dish can change the video codec to h.264 (mpeg4) and not change anything with the signal (qpsk, 8psk, etc).

Also, in reverse, they can change how data on a transponder is transmitted (qpsk, 8psk), without changing the data (mpeg2, etc). One is carried over the other :)
 
goaliebob99 said:
so why is 8psk more benificial than qpsk for hd??? is it because the extra bit's that it provides.. for the increased quality for the picture and audio?

Yes, basically they are providing a higher data rate on the 8psk transponders. Check out the Symbol rates on lyngsat..

8psk example:
Symbol rate = 21500k
Forward Error Correction (FEC) = 2/3
Modulation = 8PSK

So, each second, 21,500,000 symbols are transmitted. Each symbol contains 3 bits. So that is 64,500,000 bits per second, for the entire transponder. However, all of that is not usable data, since FEC is used. You cant retransmit a video signal if it arrives corrupt, so what they do is send the error correction along with the signal. Thats what the 2/3 is. 1/3 of the 64.5Mbit is for error correction, thus 64.5 * (2/3) = 43Mbit of user data per transponder. That is divided by whatever channels are on the transponder.

QPSK example:
Symbol rate = 20000k
FEC = 5/6
Modulation = QPSK

Take 20,000,000 symbols * 2 bits = 40Mbit / s. Apply FEC, 40Mbit * (5/6) = 33.3Mbit/s of user data on a qpsk transponder.


So why dont they just use 8psk for all of them?? Well, you need a decoder than can handle 8psk, which are only found in the HD boxes as well as the 311 I believe. Signal to noise ratios also play a part in all of this. You need a higher SNR to use 8psk.

The transponders with locals on them, some have 12 video channels, thats 2.8Mbit/s for each video channel. This is really kind of the bottom of the barrel in terms of video quality expected from a mpeg2 stream of this datarate.

I might have made some errors here and there, please correct me if I'm wrong!
 
actually all dp recivers can handle 8psk if i remember right.... it was them gosh darn legacy recivers that didnt... What I could see happening.. with mpg4 coming along.. is that most tps will endup going to 8psk mpg4 after everyones been swapped but thats years down the line....
 
Scott Greczkowski said:
No I don't think thats is.

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Just a thought. :)
These 2 channels are immediately below the present HD channels which start at 9920. Could these 2 be ESPN2 HD and Universal HD? Would be a very nice November 1 present for us HD users!
 
no they aren't

HD is at 94xx

99xx is the engineering range and it looks like these channels are for more sports uplinks
 
Nope sorry they arent HD...

They are standard def "ppv sports" channels. Most likely another uplink for when they have center ice and espn gameplan overlaps.
 
One day of the week it is.. most of the time... unless there doing something special... I check the uplinks atleast twice a day.... on wed... multiply that by 200... and thats how often i check it.. :) Usally I check it before going to bed... and when i wake up.. so if something happens... You will hear it here... Most of the time im up to catch the late night uplinks... Nothing new sence todays activity.. Cheers :)
 
Thanks for the good work. And congrats to your team on a long-awaited World Series title. I was feeling bad for the Astros with the way the White Sox were handling them. I know I shouldn't since it's been 87 years since the last title.
 
87 years of futility. It's not like they're a perennial contender...

and thanks to the National League for not showing up...again...Maybe it's time for the braves to get back into the series, make it interesting again...
 
Pre uplink activity.. :) (really no activity)

Ok guys this is the first time that im going to be doing this so Please be pacent with me tom. I have tryed it several times on non uplink days and have had sucess.. I will be in school tomorrow during Normal uplink hours.. Until febuary I will be doing the uplink reports like this...


Don't freak out.. ;)


I will be remotely doing The uplink reports from my home pc to Devry. So if it doesn't appear as fast :) as usual that why :) Fortunately Devry has a wireless connection that I will be able to connect to with my notebook so Im expecting to be able to catch the new uplinks just as quick as i did before. I will have it up and running while im in class. So while im getting edumicated :) I should be able to post everything with out a hitch... I just wanted to give all members the 411 prior to all hell breaking loose tomorrow.. I do have a 3 hour break in between classes that works out well for the uplink reports.. but the activity usually is done by then (around 2pm CST)

So please be patient... as I do try to work hard to get you this information as quick and as reliable as we can as News tends to break around uplink reports.

Thanks for your understanding and THANK YOU for being a Satguys member!

Goaliebob99
 

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