I dont mind watching stretch o vision on the HD channels mainly because it is still better pq than the actual SD version of the channel.
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If the reported info is true, then it is sad that Dish has chosen to uplink "West" HD channels prior to having all the other channels from that provider (i.e. "Cinemax West" instead of "MO-MAX").
The West channels have the exact same programming.At this point, the number of Premium subscribers with HD and without a DVR, and on the West Coast, has to be a tiny fraction...
I would much rather have MO-MAX than Max W. Max W is nothing more than a duplicate of what I already have on MAX E. Besides, MO-MAX was on the "Charlie Chat list". The only thing I need less than Max W is WFN-HD.
Hmmm...I believe we've heard those two media magnates in litigious actions with E* over the years (the CBS debacle & the current VOOM "issues") ...can't imagine they'd have problems negotiating with one another, can we?
I Agree IMO, but I can see why those in the west would like to have it. Seems like they'd add MOMAX over 5-star MAX, though, unless they are shooting for the "more variety" angle.
How would that be different than any company giving a potential customer a copy or sample of a product for testing and evaluation purposes? While there is always a chance of pirating, it's not like E* is going to give the "evaluation" signal to the subs w/o an agreement in place. (Except in the TBS case of giving the signal to their employees, and we all saw what happened when E* got caught red-handed on that one)
I realized after initially posting that E* was testing 5 Temp HD channels before gaining any of these TPs. So adding that in, I estimate the over under on capacity for National HD channels to be 33.
I guess it also means that IF they do light up these hd channels that Eastern Arc will be put on hold for a few months.
My company partners with Dish but we surely don't know anything until the day of or after.
"official" is not involved in this info. Reports from anon sources may be quite prevalent. Changes may happen. No new channels are being provided to subscribers. Whole picture may change if legal affairs situation changes.
I count 9 Tps still in QPSK mode at 61.5. So, the status of EA is far from known. It is known there was/is a technical glitch to be resolved.
Dang, I'm going to have to subscribe to Cinemax again.
CNBC is good news because of the Olympics, I was surprised it didn't come up in the last batch.
Of the "missing" channels, the only one I'd be missing is IFC. I suppose the Voom issue put the brakes on that. Relatively good news all around, even if only half of it comes true.
Oh, and though I've been annoyed with SatelliteGuys lately, this thread shows why I stay. Hackers get banned, even when they have useful information, yet we still get the BENEFIT of the information.
Still, it's a little fishy. Does TWC even have an HD signal up yet?
CNBC is good news because of the Olympics, I was surprised it didn't come up in the last batch.
Of the "missing" channels, the only one I'd be missing is IFC. I suppose the Voom issue put the brakes on that. Relatively good news all around, even if only half of it comes true.
Oh, and though I've been annoyed with SatelliteGuys lately, this thread shows why I stay. Hackers get banned, even when they have useful information, yet we still get the BENEFIT of the information.
Still, it's a little fishy. Does TWC even have an HD signal up yet?
Oh, and though I've been annoyed with SatelliteGuys lately, this thread shows why I stay. Hackers get banned, even when they have useful information, yet we still get the BENEFIT of the information.
It's kind of like sending a murderer to prison. Do we let him go just because we all hated the victim? Do we kill the victim's wife because she had life insurance on him.
The only one punished is the one who broke the rules. No point in undoing what he's said. If anything, leaving the posts intact just points out that this board won't tolerate hackers even if they try to "contribute" in a way they see as positive.
As for him not getting banned sooner, I imagine not every staff member here knows for sure how to interpret what is hacking when the post isn't outright about it. Now, if the guy came on here asking why he can't suddenly see Showtime on DISH with his Coolsat, that would be a different story. Although he is probably for certain a hacker, I imagine DISH does have people who have the equipment to watch these TMP channels to ensure they are running smooth before public release. It would be great if that sort of inside information was being disseminated on this forum, but I agree that getting such data from a hacker posting on this forum shouldn't happen because hackers shouldn't be here to begin with.
I do wonder, if one were to go to some of the hacker forums and see what they are reporting as being on the TMP channels and then relayed that information here, is that a no-no?
Dish could still move ahead with these TPs, but it will take months to move all these international channels and get new dishes out to all the subscribers. I am surprised that they did not launch an emergency relocation of these when AMC-14 had its problems. They could have made serious progress if they had started right away.
It's a "need to know" basis.... Don't know in what capacity your company deals with Dish, but some don't need to know the number of HD customers Dish has. If your company stamps out their dishes or makes the buttons for remote-controls, why does the number of HD customers matter ?
A channel or network can ask, and will likely be told. They are going to want "x" dollars or cents per month from Dish on a per-customer basis.
Have to say it won't be allowed.... All a "hacker" has to do is claim they got their information from another site and that they aren't doing anything illegal, just passing on info.
How about just doing a switch to MPEG4. Just need new receivers if they don't already have VIP211 or higher.
I have to disagree. In this very thread, a staff member listed what the last four Temp channels are reported to be. Since the channels are encrypted the reports are either coming from a hacker or from someone inside E* that is leaking the info.
A lot of information and speculation on this site are reports from 3rd party sources. So as long as a poster doesn't say "Hacker X says the channels are a, b, and c" and instead remains vague about the source then I think it's likely to be allowed.
Again, anyone providing rumors could be a hacker, but until they come out and give some indication of it, on what basis will you decide what is permissible and what isn't?
(Hopefully, that didn't sound confrontational. If there's a good way to determine distinguish hackers from the rest, I'm all ears.)
My response was in regards to knowing when new HD channels or any channels will be available........not as to how many hd subscribers they have. . I frankly can care less about that.
I agree! this person didn't once try and tell you how to Hack into anything . So just because he did this on his own ,and shared barely any information what so ever!. He stated channel names ! Who really care's? He didn't tell you what receiver he's using, or what he did. So how is this Hack talk? Whats the difference between Uplink reports and what this so called Hacker posts? If uplinks were anyone's business ,don't you think all Dishnetwork customers would get one in their monthy statement?
Hmmm...gotta kind of agree with these points.
He could have just been making stuff up too. If I was going to lie, I'd try to figure out a way to make it look legit. I'd think to myself "Hey, why are there 4 channels in the 300s?" and make up a sensible reason why.
BTW, I'd love it if they would move all the HD only channels down there. There's 21 HD only channels now, there will be 25 if these go through. Maybe put the HD-Only movie channels in the 360s, and all the others 370-399
Actually, I'd like to see them do a whole renumbering project like they used to do way back when. (Not sure if I ever saw DISH do one, but I remember one at Direct.) Since they are doing channel mapdowns anyway, why not integrate the HD channels among the rest?
When I was in college, I took a programming class, and we actually had to design a hypothetical cable system and explain why we were placing what where. Of course, it was channels 2 -37 only, so it wasn't much of a challenge.
I wonder if Voom has requirements that their channels be placed together.
