Yep, when you call D*, say cancel at the first prompt and you'll get to retention, those are the folks that can make deals. What appears to work the best is that you want to upgrade to a HD DVR and Dish doesn't have an upfront charge for their HD DVR, you want to stay with D* but really can't see paying hundreds of dollars for the HR20. Just be nice and usually it works. If you don't get a good deal just say thank you, never mind, and call back again in a few days, sometimes getting a different CSR is a key to making a good deal.