I can see now why people are dropping satellite to go to cable. although I am extremely pleased with my satellite (Beats everything in my area) I may actually after 3-4 months with dish network, be dropping them for time warner cable. This is not due to anything Dish Network has done, but something my phone line company has done (sbc) I like many people I am sure, have dsl and phone line, then Satellite. Well to make a long thread short, my Dsl 24.95 price is done and my dsl bill is going up to I think 45.95, now I can redo my contract at 24.95 but for the next 30 days I am out of contract. I was contacted by a time warner employee yesterday, and for 152.80 I can get Road Runner, Digital Cable (with HDTV locals and discovery)(hdtv tier is 7 dollars extra), and digital phone with unlimited local and long distance. I dont know if their is any hidden fees associated with this, but I do know the reason I dumped time warner 4 months ago has been taken care of with all new wiring in my neighberhood. the reason I created this thread was for people who are in my situation of trying to trim extra money every month (I am 24 getting ready to have kids in the next two years) to look and really study the numbers, DSL was great for me, but with the new triple Play with cable, its tough to turn down time warner. As much as I have said DISH network is the best. I might have to go to second place because of the money I can save (by the way I would also get 4 premiums with on demand service for each, and the HDTV service is all untouched signal, meaning OTA quality) enjoy reading and please other people chime in with their thoughts on this as it is informitive thread