Yeah they added this "feature" in an update maybe a year ago. It's pretty annoying. If I want my damn show to start early or end late you do it, that's why the receiver has two tuners! It ends up missing a few seconds in between the two shows. I wish they would get rid of this. The fix is to make it at least 5 minutes either way and then it doesn't change it to 0.
The one minute early "ignore" if a show is set to air and record on the same channel right after has been the case for SEVERAL YEARS going back to the SD 522/625 (the old 721 was pretty much the same, if I remember) and the ViP's are no different as I have had to work around for about 8 years and since day one of the 722.
What has probably happened is the the DVR is now recording a show on the same channel immediately after or a different channel with both tuners in use when the following program records where it hadn't been an issue before (or your timer is the PRIORITY) and that is why you think it is some new kink, but it's not. This has been how Dish dual tuner DVR's have worked since day one many years ago. I've had to deal with this for MTV in particular. There is a workaround:
If you set the
Start Early to a minimum of
2 Minutes and
End Late to a minimum of
3 Minutes, then the tuner will record the ENTIRE 1:05 NO MATTER WHAT. You must to do this especially if a recording is scheduled for the same channel immediately after on the same or other channel. I have been doing this for
MTV for ages.
Be aware that the tuners for BOTH will automatically be recording at the same time (for the same channel, a 2 minute overlap of the same 2 minutes) and you will lose the ability of watching one channel while recording a different if you are tuned to different channel channel than either of the 2 set for recording during the 2 minute "overlap," if one of your tuners does not have another recording set to fire.
This set-up can be problematic in most cases and should only be used in situations where you are certain you need this guaranteed extra block of recording time and is probably why Dish timers do NOT and will NEVER be set by Engineering to default to this type of setting. If you do this for recordings that don't need the guarantee, your DVR is going to drop your live show (painful if you are watching delayed and don't save it) and change channels on your and both tuners will be in use and you can't watch a 2nd or 3rd channel unless you cease one of the recordings. Remember you can set the custom details of a timer to be the DEFAULT for your DVR by selecting that option at the bottom of the Timer Set page. That is how you can make it your default.
If you can, as suggested in another post, it is worth the small effort to use your OTA tuner (or buy the MT2 module for the 722K for $30 and get an OTA antenna, then you can record OTA's separate and in addition to your sat channels if your conflicts involve Locals.
In the case of conflicting SAT channel, if you have a timer that is supposed to record, but you end up overiding it using 2 Min Early and 3 Min late, then, the DVR will NOT record that showing (depending upon your PRIORITY TIMER LIST), but WILL record the next airing (often 3 hours later), unless it is a Local that often airs a show only ONCE and repeats it only months later. If you use DishPass for certain shows, networks like NBC will air the same premier episode on one of its owned "cable" channels.
Finally, be certain that the timer are in the correct PRIORITY, or this workaround won't work as your intended timers are too low in PRIORITY and will be skipped and one becoming frustrated.
, and the only way to resolve it to the way it should be, was to change it. I have not seen any of this "intelligent" operation that one would think by this time in technology would be there. But I was also told that they could not go too far on this level or risk "infringement" accusations. But the only major issues happen with the major networks when they started the "start early" BS. Cable channels purposely avoided this because they knew this pissed people off and did more damage than good. Thank you guys! Now if they would only take all their screen crap off or move it way down out of my real estate.
