If Dish joins the Death Star that is AT&T and Directv, I will take that as the last excuse I need to put up a 50’ tower with a massive OTA antenna and rotor and kiss pay TV goodbye (except Netflix, of course)
Looks like even Directv is losing subs in large numbers. Att reported third quarter losses of 134,000 pay tv customers and 251,000 decline in satellite subs. Now they say some loss was due to Hurricane Harvey outages in both Texas and Florida . But I think this is going to keep happening . I read that they might want to merge both DISH and Directv or ATT since both are bleeding subs badly.
It's the content owners causing the inflated prices, but cable has other services (phone, internet) to fall back on and absorb the losses. Directv too, now with their merger with AT&T. Dish is the clear underdog in this arena at the moment.Lot's of talk here and numerous reasons, but I think the underlying cause for these sub losses for (satellite and cable too) is cost. With their incessant price hikes, they're pricing themselves out of reach for many people and ultimately, out of business.
It's probably still a ways off, but there will come a time when a dwindling subscriber base will no longer justify the cost for satellite providers (possibly cable too) in maintaining their infrastructure.
This is why there is speculation that both DISH and DIRECTV( ATT ) might merge. Because they are both bleeding satellite subs and merging might put off the eventual end of the industry for a little while longer. That is all we have been seeing for the last few years and that is media consolidation or merging. Pay Tv is losing subs at a terrific rate . The satellite business is basically the SEARS of the dying brick and mortar retail industry. Just a matter of time before it either dies all together or merges with some other business to become something different all together.Lot's of talk here and numerous reasons, but I think the underlying cause for these sub losses for (satellite and cable too) is cost. With their incessant price hikes, they're pricing themselves out of reach for many people and ultimately, out of business.
It's probably still a ways off, but there will come a time when a dwindling subscriber base will no longer justify the cost for satellite providers (possibly cable too) in maintaining their infrastructure.
I agree that it's the content owners/providers, but the cost issue for a declining subscriber base remains regardless who is responsible.It's the content owners causing the inflated prices, but cable has other services (phone, internet) to fall back on and absorb the losses. Directv too, now with their merger with AT&T. Dish is the clear underdog in this arena at the moment.
Did you read the rest of my post? Dish is the only provider that would suffer from a declining subscriber base, as the other companies have other services to absorb/mitigate the losses. They can offer artificially low TV prices and make up for it with profits from telephone and internet bundles.I agree that it's the content owners/providers, but the cost issue for a declining subscriber base remains regardless who is responsible.
Did you read the rest of my post? Dish is the only provider that would suffer from a declining subscriber base, as the other companies have other services to absorb/mitigate the losses. They can offer artificially low TV prices and make up for it with profits from telephone and internet bundles.
Sling still puts a customer at the mercy of the local ISP, whereas ATT can move them to Directvnow and just give customers a break on internet just like cable does with the 2 and 3 play bundles. Dish/Sling are currently stranded on an island by themselvesDish has Sling
Sling still puts a customer at the mercy of the local ISP, whereas ATT can move them to Directvnow and just give customers a break on internet just like cable does with the 2 and 3 play bundles. Dish/Sling are currently stranded on an island by themselves
Not really. AT&T is still a competitor to Dish in rural areas with DTV, and they have the financial backing of offering their other services where broadband is available. In essence, DTV could undercut Dish in price in rural areas and still make enough profits with their other services to squash Dish like a bug.I could be way off base, but I'm not sure that's a bad thing, at least for the forseeable future. Lack of broadband in rural areas gives Dish a niche.
Doubtful for long. This is a generational change and the old pay tv model is headed for the eventual dust bin of history. The losses will continue to accelerate until they either change to a true ala cart service and let people choose what they want to pay for or let them buy tv series by the show instead of the channel itself. After all most of the day on any cable channel is made up of reruns of network tv and infomercials . The only really original programming comes at night during prime time viewing hours and then repeated again right after they end . Canada has already mandated by law true ala cart on their pay tv services . I just wonder how that is working out and if that slowed their pay tv losses . But you have to remember that the entire population of Canada is about equal to that of the state of California. So we are talking about a smaller country to compare too, but it would still be interesting to see.The losses may level off.
I was a dish network subscriber from 1995 to 2017 December. No one saying the real reason is because sat providers keep hiring out of country support! Cheap labor will eventually cost your business!WHEN?
Doubtful for long. This is a generational change and the old pay tv model is headed for the eventual dust bin of history. The losses will continue to accelerate until they either change to a true ala cart service and let people choose what they want to pay for or let them buy tv series by the show instead of the channel itself. After all most of the day on any cable channel is made up of reruns of network tv and infomercials . The only really original programming comes at night during prime time viewing hours and then repeated again right after they end . Canada has already mandated by law true ala cart on their pay tv services . I just wonder how that is working out and if that slowed their pay tv losses . But you have to remember that the entire population of Canada is about equal to that of the state of California. So we are talking about a smaller country to compare too, but it would still be interesting to see.
The emerging iptv platform will allow customers to purchase broadband from one provider and only the programming they want directly from the programmer..problem is that most millenials want freeDoubtful for long. This is a generational change and the old pay tv model is headed for the eventual dust bin of history. The losses will continue to accelerate until they either change to a true ala cart service and let people choose what they want to pay for or let them buy tv series by the show instead of the channel itself. After all most of the day on any cable channel is made up of reruns of network tv and infomercials . The only really original programming comes at night during prime time viewing hours and then repeated again right after they end . Canada has already mandated by law true ala cart on their pay tv services . I just wonder how that is working out and if that slowed their pay tv losses . But you have to remember that the entire population of Canada is about equal to that of the state of California. So we are talking about a smaller country to compare too, but it would still be interesting to see.
That works until Comcast decides to block all Netflix or ATT iptv streams at the Exchange points. Net Neutrality be damned.The emerging iptv platform will allow customers to purchase broadband from one provider and only the programming they want directly from the programmer..problem is that most millenials want free