The OFFICIAL DISH / HBO Thread
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Business. Running two separate platforms for a singular service is not a smart business mood.
...from your cold, dead hands.
(Okay, I'll stop now.)
And yet it could be argued that with the various models of Hopper and Wally, they are still running separate platforms, since not all of the apps or features from the more advanced models are available on the cheaper models.
Am I going to receive an email or letter from Dish about the VIP series being axed, or will they just brick it some night when it does its reboot?
They are going to contact you first and schedule an install of newer equipment.
It's likely that all the features are there, and a hardware detection routine determines which ones are active. That's a pretty common programming practice that makes rolling out updates more efficient since no advance version detection is needed.
True. It just seems like some of the decisions about which features are active are completely arbitrary. For example, there is no reason why the Hopper Duo could not do PTAT, since it already has the ability to record the four major networks using only one tuner. The only possible reason I could think of is the smaller hard drive size in the Hopper Duo compared to the other Hoppers, so maybe Dish was concerned about filling up the hard drive too quickly. Even then, though, some limited version of PTAT (such as only storing the events for two days) could have been included, since that is one of the settings available on the other Hoppers that have PTAT.
One word: "Marketing". Dish would rather see H3's out there than Duo's...
It's the perk of renewing our contracts and upgrading our equipment. Outside of receiving your content, I think Dish is all but done with the VIP except for the 211k or 211z, which is used for tailgating and those who travel in RVs. People in those circumstances are not looking apps.
I'm on the Hopper 1 and would never see it.
My point was that people would be looking for the app if it were the only way to access the programming through the Dish system. With something completely new that has never been available through Dish before, it might not be a big deal to require a newer receiver to get the app. For HBO (even though it is technically not the same HBO) people who used to get the linear channels would scream bloody murder if HBO returned to Dish in any fashion, only to still be withheld from their receiver model. That is why Dish needs to work on getting as many of these subscribers converted to a Wally as possible, and also work on actually adding any new streaming apps to the Wally.
And that would upset a lot of customers who would want the actual channels back and not just an app.
I honestly don’t think the HBO and Cinemax channels will come back until it comes time to negotiate the Turner channels (CNN, Cartoon Network, TBS, etc.) as they are all owned by AT&T now. And AT&T could use the Turner channels as leverage to also include the HBO and Cinemax channels as well since cable/satellite providers can’t really do without the Turner channels.
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