The National Anthem...

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...before the Giants/Dolphins game was sung by local impresario Paul Potts. I didn't realize they were playing in Cambodia!:eek:
 
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Boys to men sang it the other night at the Sox /Rocks game. Or maybe it was the America the beautiful during the 7th inning stretch. In any case they were god awful, almost as bad as Rosanne Barr
 
Cambodia National Anthem in Khmer



(translated to English)

NOKOREACH

Heaven protects our King
And gives him happiness and glory
To reign over our souls and our destinies,
The one being, heir of the Sovereign builders,
Guiding the proud old Kingdom.

Temples are asleep in the forest,
Remembering the splendour of Moha Nokor.
Like a rock the Khmer race is eternal.
Let us trust in the fate of Campuchea,
The empire which challenges the ages.

Songs rise up from the pagodas
To the glory of holy buddhistic faith.
Let us be faithful to our ancestors' belief.
Thus heaven will lavish its bounty
Towards the ancient Khmer country, the Moha Nokor.


Adopted in 1941 and restored in 1993
Words by CHUON NAT (1883-1969)
 
This is not a Republican issue. This is not a Democratic issue. This is not a conservative or liberal issue. I don't care who the president is. I don't care whether I voted for him or not. I don't care how good or how bad our country is doing at any given time when the anthem is played. All this is irrelevant.

All I care about is that when it's played, the National Anthem be played without massacring it! And dammit, people, show some f'in' respect for it and our flag when it's played! Hundreds of thousands of men and women have died to give us the right to whine and bitch and have fun--and be free! That anthem should be revered and respected the way the Lord is when people pray.

You hate George Bush? Fine. But remember this: that flag, a symbol though it may be, and its truly beautiful anthem, stand for, among other things, your right to hate Bush and bitch about the country. Think of that!

Can't we simply have people sing it with grace and respect?!? For once!

End of rant.
 
The biggest problem is that the people that are chosen to sing are thinking "Hey! I'm going to be on network television. Millions of people are going to be watching ME! Now's my big chance to show everybody my vocal range, my soul, my talent. I'm going to give it everything I've got and stretch it out as long as I can to maximize my exposure."

...and the end result is that they end up yodeling the National Anthem. :mad:
 
Music has always been interpreted by the artist. The National Anthem shouldn't be cast in concrete and become anachronistic.

Personally, I believe that Whitney Houston's performance was the best version I've ever heard.
 
The biggest problem is that the people that are chosen to sing are thinking "Hey! I'm going to be on network television. Millions of people are going to be watching ME! Now's my big chance to show everybody my vocal range, my soul, my talent. I'm going to give it everything I've got and stretch it out as long as I can to maximize my exposure."

...and the end result is that they end up yodeling the National Anthem. :mad:

You hit it right on the button. AND, every different "artist" want to put their "personal touch" to it....
 
You hit it right on the button. AND, every different "artist" want to put their "personal touch" to it....

Yeah anyone remember Jimi Hendrix's version?

I personally don't like it when they put their own spin on it. They should do it like it was meant to be.
 
I still remember the uproar when Jose Feliciano sang it at the 1968 world series.

Don't be talkin' about my man Jose...!!!:mad:;) In all fairness....I don't mind a different version that much as long as it is not too far off the way it was intended and as long as the person/s can actually sing....
 
Hey, I'm a Jose' fan. Saw him last year with Bill Cosby and he was awesome. What he did was very "on the edge" during a very conservative time.

Don't be talkin' about my man Jose...!!!:mad:;) In all fairness....I don't mind a different version that much as long as it is not too far off the way it was intended and as long as the person/s can actually sing....
 
Did I miss something in this thread?...Paul Potts has a wonderful operatic voice. I didn't hear him sing the Anthem. What did he do to turn this thread into an anti-American Anthem discussion?
 
Another perspective on this: How many of us patriotic Americans actually know that the Anthem has more than one verse? (Bonus points if you can actually recite them) :D
 
Four verses to the National Anthem. We only sing ONE!

BTW singers putting their spin on a song... THAT'S THEIR JOB!

Some times they are great. Some times they blow chunks! But there are no two performances that are exactly the same.

The word used for a solo singer in spanish is "Intérprete" which literally translates to "Interpreter"! That is what singers are. They interpret the feeling of the notes and connect with the audience if they are doing their job.

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Here are all four verses to the National Anthem (I knew the number of verses without looking it up. I had an idea what the verses said. I had no idea what the actual lyrics were)

O say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep.
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
‘Tis the Star-Spangled Banner! O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the Star-Spangled Banner, in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must when our cause it is just
And this be our motto: “In God is our Trust.”
And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
 
Four verses to the National Anthem. We only sing ONE!

BTW singers putting their spin on a song... THAT'S THEIR JOB!

Some times they are great. Some times they blow chunks! But there are no two performances that are exactly the same.

The word used for a solo singer in spanish is "Intérprete" which literally translates to "Interpreter"! That is what singers are. They interpret the feeling of the notes and connect with the audience if they are doing their job.

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Here are all four verses to the National Anthem (I knew the number of verses without looking it up. I had an idea what the verses said. I had no idea what the actual lyrics were)

O say, can you see, by the dawn’s early light,
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight’s last gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight,
O’er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rocket’s red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
O say does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?

On the shore dimly seen through the mists of the deep.
Where the foe’s haughty host in dread silence reposes,
What is that which the breeze, o’er the towering steep,
As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
Now it catches the gleam of the morning’s first beam,
In full glory reflected now shines in the stream:
‘Tis the Star-Spangled Banner! O long may it wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
That the havoc of war and the battle’s confusion
A home and a country should leave us no more?
Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps’ pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight, or the gloom of the grave:
And the Star-Spangled Banner, in triumph doth wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

O thus be it ever when freemen shall stand
Between their loved homes and the war’s desolation!
Blest with vict’ry and peace, may the Heaven-rescued land
Praise the Power that hath made and preserved us a nation.
Then conquer we must when our cause it is just
And this be our motto: “In God is our Trust.”
And the Star-Spangled Banner in triumph shall wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

:up:up:up And to think....a good ole "Boriqua" was the 1st to answer!!!
By the way, "boriqua" is a Puerto Rican for the hispanically impaired....nice job Tony!:D
 
But the National Anthem is not a song per se. A singer putting his/her own style to a song is one thing, but the National Anthem has a distinct melody all its own because of what it is and what it represents. No other musical piece is like it. None.

First, the national anthem's music is based on a British drinking song from the 1760s.

Here are the original lyrics to the song the US National Anthem is set to:



To Anacreon in Heav'n, where he sat in full glee,
A few Sons of Harmony sent a petition;
That he their Inspirer and Patron wou'd be;
When this answer arrived from the Jolly Old Grecian;
"Voice, Fiddle, and Flute,
No longer be mute,
I'll lend you my name and inspire you to boot,
And besides I'll instruct you like me, to intwine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

The news through Olympus immediately flew;
When Old Thunder pretended to give himself airs.
If these Mortals are suffered their scheme to pursue,
The Devil, a Goddess, will stay above stairs.
"Hark," already they cry,
"In transports of joy,
Away to the Sons of Anacreon we'll fly.
And besides I'll instruct you like me, to intwine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine.

The Yellow-Haired God and his nine lusty Maids,
From Helion's banks will incontinent flee,
Idalia will boast but of tenantless Shades,
And the bi-forked hill a mere desert will be.
My Thunder no fear on't,
Shall soon do it's errand,
And damme I'll swing the Ringleaders I warrant,
I'll trim the young dogs, for thus daring to twine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

Apollo rose up and said, "Pry'thee ne'er quarrel,
Good sing of the Gods with my Vot'ries below:
Your Thunder is useless"--then showing his laurel,
Cry'd "Sic evitable fulmen" you know!
"Then over each head
My laurels I'll spread
So my sons from your Crackers no mischief shall dread,
While snug in their clubroom, they jovially twine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine.'

Next Momus got up with his risible Phiz
And swore with Apollo he'd cheerfully join--
'The full tide of Harmony still shall be his,
But the Song, and the Catch, and the Laugh,
shall be mine.
Then Jove be not jealous
Of these honest fellows,"
Cry'd Jove, "We relent since the truth you now tell us;
And swear by Old Styx, that they long shall intwine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."

Ye Sons of Anacreon then join hand in hand;
Preserve Unanimity, Friendship, and Love!
'Tis yours to support what's so happily plann'd;
You've the sanction of Gods, and the Fiat of Jove.
While thus we agree,
Our toast let it be:
"May our Club flourish Happy, United, and Free!
And long may the Sons of Anacreon intwine,
The Myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's Vine."
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Secondly, most singers sing (or interpret) other people's songs. It is their job to inject feeling and life to the notes. Otherwise you may as well just use a synthesizer.

See ya
Tony
 

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