The ANSWER to last night's HD Poll

[Bear Paws]

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I was watching Giada on Food Network today and then swithed to the local news in HD and both looked stunning. (Although the weather lady here on channel 8 looks like Tony Danza )

OK, I really got to ask. Whats this thing with Giada?
I know a Walter Mathuw shes not.!!!

 

[Peter Parker]

Are people really buying 1080i displays?? I doubt it.
Displaying a signal by painting every other line, then going back to fill in the skipped lines,
letting phosphor and the viewers eyeballs do the deinterlacing seems like a thing of the past.
I'd bet very few cathode-ray tubes are sold new in comparison to fixed-pixel technologies
in the consumer display market.
No fixed pixel technologies (LCD, DLP, LCOS) work that way.
Now I believe you that the internal components are only designed to process the bandwidth
of a 1080i signal and not a full 1080p60 signal, but even so I'd think that most displays are capable
of resolving all 1920 pixels across a given line, even if few HD video cameras are capable of capturing
that much data.

I see very v=few 1080p sets and hefty price tags for them. Are people buying 1080i? Yes they are 720p as well. Not everyone can swing the price tags of 1080p sets. I suspect that 1080p is still a small percentage----but who knows wher we can find the sales figures?

 

[Peter Parker]

I believe PDPs are microdisplays also- no lamp.

I will take your word for that. I saw some sources that seemed to makea distinction. but I see no "official" definition.

 

[Sean Mota]

I am a skeptical and watched some of these channels whenever there was HD aired. I could only say that the PQ is not worse than it was before (with 6 channels per transponder) as it was before. That's improvement in itself. Does it look like when there was only 6 HD channels available on Dish? No. That wow factor would never come back or I will ever be able to see unless HD DVD/Blue-R provides it. But again HD DVD/BR cannot provide everything so therefore we are stuck with the PQ of the provider.

 

[ehren]

Not impressed with the 6 channels per TP.

Well I am like that Gary character from AVS and DBSTalk. I want 1920x1080!!!!. They could do this with 4 channels per TP with MPEG 4. Maybe even 5. But everyone just backs down and accepts the mediorce PQ b/c it's better than SD.

Well folks it's a conspiracy that SD channels like ESPN2 on channel 144 look so bad that a 1280x1080 or 1440x1080 resolution for the same channel in HD makes us go wow. So enjoy your mediorcity or however the hell it's spelled. I'm too tired for a damn spell check. have you seen how blurry the picture on the australian open was? They do it on purpose people to make HD-Lite look so stellar.

 

[Drone35]

Reguardless of what Dish did with their mpeg4 encoders which I think this is big, it's still HD Lite! Come on Dish give us full HD!

 

[cebbigh]

Viewing all six channels today they looked better than I've seen them before. I thought StarzHD looked better than HBOHD and that is a first. I was really impressed watching NFLHD. High motion scenes looked great. Hope Dish is buying a bunch of this new equipment and puts it to use as soon as possible.

 

[jdr01930]

Wow! This is certainly great news, and answers my previous question of "what's on dish's front burner" (as is, what the hell are they actively working on).

I don't have time to read all 9 pages of this thread, so I apologize if the following point has already been made:

Being a network engineer, if I'm planning major changes and doing performance tuning, I prefer to tweak one thing at a time. If I were a dish engineer, I would defiantly do this in phases - something like this:

1. Put all channels on the same transponder and let the dust settle (i.e. - DON'T increase resolution at the same time).

2. After determining that the desired results were achieved and no new problems were created, THEN increase resolution or other tweaks to improve PQ.


Maybe, if we're lucky, that's what's up their sleeve.

 

[cebbigh]

Wow! This is certainly great news, and answers my previous question of "what's on dish's front burner" (as is, what the hell are they actively working on).

I don't have time to read all 9 pages of this thread, so I apologize if the following point has already been made:

Being a network engineer, if I'm planning major changes and doing performance tuning, I prefer to tweak one thing at a time. If I were a dish engineer, I would defiantly do this in phases - something like this:

1. Put all channels on the same transponder and let the dust settle (i.e. - DON'T increase resolution at the same time).

2. After determining that the desired results were achieved and no new problems were created, THEN increase resolution or other tweaks to improve PQ.


Maybe, if we're lucky, that's what's up their sleeve.

If we're lucky, yes. I think it's apparent that we weren't to ever get to that point before. Now there is at least a chance. Although I think it will come after they are certain they have the capacity to deliver more HD matching the quality (or lack thereof) of the competition.

 

[foghorn2]

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OK, I really got to ask. Whats this thing with Giada?
I know a Walter Mathuw shes not.!!!

She is always showing her breasts, chicken breasts that is

Now with MPEG4, they look suck-ulent as ever.

 

[Bear Paws]

She is always showing her breasts, chicken breasts that is

Now with MPEG4, they look suck-ulent as ever.

Thats funny , Thats what I watch too. I have no idea what she is cooking and i'm a "cooker" I try not to watch har smile though.

 

[vurbano]

Reguardless of what Dish did with their mpeg4 encoders which I think this is big, it's still HD Lite! Come on Dish give us full HD!

I agree. I was hoping Dish would set the bar.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Thanks guys. We got rid of the trouble maker. Thanks to everyone who reported it.

 

[Madtown HD Junkie]

I'm just happy progress is being made. When I switched from D* to E* this past year I wanted more HD, which I got at the cost of the ST. I thought I would be back with D* with the new birds flying and that they would have more HD...maybe not. It is good news. let's be happy for progress

 

[PowerMax]

I hate to be the one to jump in here and say "WHAT?!?!" Most HDTV's are 1920x1080 and I say again "WHAT?!?!" Only the LCDs and small TV's are 1368x768. Let me just say that of the 20-some HDTV owners I know only 2 of us have sets that DON'T display true HD.

So where does this "cannot display beyond 1440x1080" statement come from. Does anyone care to back this up with documented fact?

I guess to keep this post on topic I should chime in that the MPEG4 did look good, so let's get it on!

 

[tracyt]

My new SAMSUNG 56" is 1920 x 1080 !!!!
No problem with display here!

 

[jdr01930]

Thats funny , Thats what I watch too. I have no idea what she is cooking and i'm a "cooker" I try not to watch har smile though.

I don't even know the real name of her show, but I call it "Cooking with Cleavage" :up

 

[fredfa]

An interesting side effect.... will less data mean more recordings on the 622. The 30 hr. HD restriction is becoming a real nuisance... I may have to switch a few timers to SD since I can't stay ahead of everything until rerun season kicks in again...

I don't know specifcally for Dish, but the DirecTV H20 records 50+ hours of MPEG-4 content and only about 30 hours of MPEG-2. I would assume you would see a smiliar increase on your 622.

 

[Hall]

I think most, if not all, LCDs and plasmas are 720p (or similar, i.e. 1366x768p). Rear-projections, including DLPs, are typically 1920x1080i. Which sells more ?? I've no idea, but some people are assuming the LCDs and plasmas do....

 

[gary s]

I don't even know the real name of her show, but I call it "Cooking with Cleavage" :up

Your title for the show made me do a 622 search for Giada. The actual name of the show is Everyday Italian. I set up a timer to at least check it out.

Also, the 6 channels all on one transponder, look excellent on my 32" Sony LCD.