Ummm... Maybe you need to look again. 110,119 & 129 are ALL east of Alaska and Hawaii
Hence the comment about whether 148 would be part of the "Western Arc".Talon Dancer
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Hence the comment about whether 148 would be part of the "Western Arc".Talon Dancer
Wonder the chance (fat or slim?) of having a combination of the $9.99 essential package and one of the constantly changing hi def packages? Ok, have been one of the early optimists since we watched the original VOOM go through it's struggles, and that was before most of the national feeds we now take for granted. Sean was really insane in the old days.. and he had this great avatar..............................who ever thought we would have to go to a favorites screen to ELIMINATE some of the hi def offerings, although I am starting to enjoy the fishin' thing a little...
and he had this great avatar..............................who ever thought we would have to go to a favorites screen to ELIMINATE some of the hi def offerings, although I am starting to enjoy the fishin' thing a little...
Alaska has no problem seeing 110 and 119, but 129's footprint doesn't reach Alaska or Hawaii. That's why we have a "special" HD package with a whopping 10 channels. I was hoping that the Western Arc at some point would include 148 which we have no problem seeing.
I have a few questions about this. Many moving from OTA or cable (not counting Cablevision). Probably never heard of Voom. Did you tell them about these channels or did you just say you would get Voom?
Did you also program their map downs so they would never have to venture around the 9400's?
Every time I show friends and family some of the Voom's, they get very interested. Especially MonstersHD and RaveHD. But also they are not in a position (except for a few) to get satellite for various reasons.
Do you, as a retailer or installers working for you have a way to just turn these channels on for a little while and show them the channels? If not, they may not even have known they were there!
Did you activate 800 HD customers? I cannot believe none of those subscribers complained if they had those channels and knew they were there. Geez.. I hooked my mother-in-law up to HD over a year ago and she still just goes to the SD channels. (TWC in this case as she would just rather just go to channel 2 than 702). She is killing me. She wanted and pays for HD but looks at SD. Interested people need to be informed. Some of you HD subs may have just called Dish and not you to complain? I don't know.
We all know about all of this on this site but the average Joe or Jo Ann does not. Burying the channels in the 9400's did not help. Now the new HD without a SD counterpart gets a place in the upper 300's! Dam! That would have helped the Voom cause as they would have been easier to find.
If Dish and Voom had kissed and made up and a map down into the some hundred channel range and not way out in the 9400's would have helped expose them more.
Voom is no angel in this either besides the not spending enough on programming. They should advertise on main stream TV what they are so people would not know about them. I know most people never heard of Voom and that was the biggest problem.
Many moving from OTA or cable (not counting Cablevision). Probably never heard of Voom. Did you tell them about these channels or did you just say you would get Voom? Many in our area have Comcast and probably never heard of Voom. They also have never heard of MGMHD, UNIVERSALHD, SMITHSONIANHD, MOJOHD (Comcast Channel)
Did you also program their map downs so they would never have to venture around the 9400's? We always put it on the "ALL SUB" guide. We also point out that the laminated channel card and tell them their channels dont stop in the 300s
Do you, as a retailer or installers working for you have a way to just turn these channels on for a little while and show them the channels? If not, they may not even have known they were there! We do not have ability to change any programming, give free programming, give credits, etc. It would be cool if we could.
Did you activate 800 HD customers? I cannot believe none of those subscribers complained if they had those channels and knew they were there. Geez.. I hooked my mother-in-law up to HD over a year ago and she still just goes to the SD channels. (TWC in this case as she would just rather just go to channel 2 than 702). She is killing me. She wanted and pays for HD but looks at SD. Interested people need to be informed. Some of you HD subs may have just called Dish and not you to complain? I don't know. I just did a check. In the last 5 months just over 50% received HD. It is possible that they called DISH, but we usually get the call first. We're the local dealer and most customers understand that calling the main 800# number can be a little more time consuming.
I think a lot of people are still very price sensitive. Honestly, fighting the bundle is much for difficult for us. Getting a customer to change from cable because of HD is simple! We have some smaller cable companies in our area that do not even offer HD yet.
I appreciate your reply. If I had my way. There would be 5 Voom Channels. Maybe a combination of all 15. I watched 2 of them semi-regularly. Rave and Rush. Good channels. Rave's content was pretty repetitive though.
Did you also program their map downs so they would never have to venture around the 9400's? We always put it on the "ALL SUB" guide. We also point out that the laminated channel card and tell them their channels dont stop in the 300s
Do you, as a retailer or installers working for you have a way to just turn these channels on for a little while and show them the channels? If not, they may not even have known they were there! We do not have ability to change any programming, give free programming, give credits, etc. It would be cool if we could.
Did you activate 800 HD customers? I cannot believe none of those subscribers complained if they had those channels and knew they were there. Geez.. I hooked my mother-in-law up to HD over a year ago and she still just goes to the SD channels. (TWC in this case as she would just rather just go to channel 2 than 702). She is killing me. She wanted and pays for HD but looks at SD. Interested people need to be informed. Some of you HD subs may have just called Dish and not you to complain? I don't know. I just did a check. In the last 5 months just over 50% received HD. It is possible that they called DISH, but we usually get the call first. We're the local dealer and most customers understand that calling the main 800# number can be a little more time consuming.
I think a lot of people are still very price sensitive. Honestly, fighting the bundle is much for difficult for us. Getting a customer to change from cable because of HD is simple! We have some smaller cable companies in our area that do not even offer HD yet.
I appreciate your reply. If I had my way. There would be 5 Voom Channels. Maybe a combination of all 15. I watched 2 of them semi-regularly. Rave and Rush. Good channels. Rave's content was pretty repetitive though.
I disagree, and in fact it's now much easier to show that Direct TV has a stronger lineup.
http://ekb.dbstalk.com/dvse-HD.htm
Ummm... Maybe you need to look again. 110,119 & 129 are ALL east of Alaska and Hawaii
Talon Dancer
Sorry, I think of California as out west. I forget about the two other states .
Charlie has a long way to go to get to 100 channels this year as far as I am concerned. I have the HD only pak and only get 45 channels, plus HBO, 5 Max, Cmax, starz, and Showtime, which makes 50. He needs another 50 to get to 100. How does he come up with 81 National HD Channels, Scott.
I understand, but it's also an unfortunate side effect to lose programming distinction against your competitor. This is something I believe thats really going to hurt Dish.
Clearly Dish is now focusing on hardware.
I also believe they have the best hardware line.
Obviously I'm not a fan of the Voom channels. I even had the Voom satellite service for about 8 months before they pulled the plug, and I didn't watch the Voom channels much back then either. Voom would have been kick-ass if they squeezed it down to about 4 or 5 channels (for example, two for movies, one for fine arts/fashion/concerts, one for news, and one for sports).
I am reminded of the commercial where Jessica Simpson says:
A lot if people think that a stretched SD image is HD.
They want "1080i" because they want to "keep up with the Joneses". They want anything that other people want.
Don't forget that ipods automatically sound worse than CD players...
Charlie says that today we have 81 national HD channels and by the end of the year they will have more the 100 national HD channels.
This is such a joke........
The word "National" would indicate anyone in the Nation would be able to view these channels....
I get 1 RSN.....
Why not just add up all the HD Locals and tell me Dish has 287 or whatever it is National HD channels.....
This is such a joke........
The word "National" would indicate anyone in the Nation would be able to view these channels....
I get 1 RSN.....
Why not just add up all the HD Locals and tell me Dish has 287 or whatever it is National HD channels.....
Big Ten Network is national. I have it on the sports pack and I am not in a Big Ten state.
