So many fine lines and not a single one on a woman that you want to look at :dev but yea there is another fine line as to them wanting numbers but also wanting a profit. I really do feel that what is being lost is overal concern for the existing customer and the new customer, I wonder how much further they are going to continue to go with the ever increasing work load on our techs and the declining pay scale on sub contractors and dealers. Dont get me wrong, I like working for Dish, this year I will make enough to put me into the middle income bracket and next year will hopefully put me in range of my uncle that has worked for GM for an eternity. But I like the way the company was working when I started 5 and half years ago as compared to how it is working now, still its called progress and I suppose its ment to be a better company by moving from its maverik under dog management to the suit and tie board room driven corporation that it has become.