Swine flu precautions

[Derwin0]

Considering that it's effects are no worse than other varieties of flu, we're not doing anything special for it.

My daughter will probably be the only one who gets the pig flu shot, since she has asthma and normally gets 2 flu shots a year anyway.

 

[navychop]

Considering that it's effects are no worse than other varieties of flu, we're not doing anything special for it....

Except the death rate is higher. About double, maybe more. They think.

 

[Skyhi]

My wife and I are thinking about having another child. Any influenza (including H1N1) is dangerous to pregnant women. She's a healthcare worker, so she's already had the seasonal flu shot....neither of us know whether she should get the H1N1 shots. What to do, what to do......

 

[d777jj]

Flush your nose at least once a day, twice is better, with a nose flush.
I've done this for years because of some serious sinus infections, which has messed up my immune system and haven't had a serious cold in years and I can't have the flu shot.
It takes time to get used to and messy , but it does work.
It's also very cheap, compared to prescriptions and over the counter drugs, because I make my own solution.
Of course washing hands and normal sanitation is also needed.

 

[HD MM]

My wife and I are thinking about having another child. Any influenza (including H1N1) is dangerous to pregnant women. She's a healthcare worker, so she's already had the seasonal flu shot....neither of us know whether she should get the H1N1 shots. What to do, what to do......

Knock her up. She's got a greater chance in getting in a car accident on the way to the hospital than contracting the Swine Flu.

 

[Skyhi]

Knock her up. She's got a greater chance in getting in a car accident on the way to the hospital than contracting the Swine Flu.

Lol! All of us actually have a good chance of getting swine flu.....I think all the health experts are fairly certain of that. For me and you, its not really a problem. For those most at risk of influenza complications (pregnant woman, infants, immune-compromised individuals) it is.

 

[Van]

Wifes friend who is a teacher said her daughter came down with miss piggy's demise having a temp of 105. The doctors determined it was the swine flue based solely on her body tempt instead of taking samples and testing. Seriously if this is how some doctors are determining what a disease or illness is then no wonder there is so much hysteria and misinformation.

 

[navychop]

They are predicting a third to half the population will get Swine Flu.

Half: Bloomberg and Huffington Post.

 

[wolfjc]

Except the death rate is higher. About double, maybe more. They think.

And they know this how?
So far there is very little death from the Swine flu.
So what are they basing their guess on?

 

[navychop]

AFAIK, from chicken entrails.

However, I think they are extrapolating from data such as this, where they find that a third of the sick had no other disease or medical condition. It must seem odd to see such a large proportion of otherwise healthy children actually succumb to the disease.

More info here.

But certainly, it could be, once again, much ado about nothing. It would be nice to say, just have confidence in the experts, but these experts don't exactly have a great track record.

We're just going to be hurting big time if half our workforce comes down with it during our busiest season, with each guy in turn being out about a week.

 

[Van]

From the article,

"Frieden noted that seasonal flu is just as deadly to children as is swine flu, and stressed the importance of kids getting seasonal flu vaccines."

One thing the article did not state was where these children lived, if these are children from Mexico and othe second world and third world nations then that has little to do with our country except for those living below the poverty level who have no health insurance and the kids are in less than moderate conditions.

Initially I was alarmed about this variation of the flu virus but I am perturbed at the media and the government for to some degree turning it into something its not. Given that there has been no real number of infected posted yet we have no idea as to how wide spread this has been and its impact death wise versus infected versus that of the regular strains that run around every year.

From the second source,

"with estimated deaths ranging from 30,000 to 90,000."

I'd say that given variables regular strains of flu can run exactly the same and I bet that deaths related to them were higher last year if you factor in the stress of the economy plus job loss and the foreclosure crisis and fuel crisis.

All this aside we are reinforcing precautions and working to get our daughter to be sure and be safe as school as much as possible.

 

[navychop]

Here's another link: Evidence based Information Portal, sort of an info only portal. Doesn't seem to discuss percentages or death rate speculation, just flu, prevention, treatment, etc. This site says Tamiflu may help. I've seen other sites that say it doesn't. From Answers.com (presumably wiki): "According to the CDC 99.6% of all seasonal H1N1 flu strains tested are resistant to Tamiflu but only 5 virus samples of pandemic flu currently have thus far shown any signs of resistance."

Isn't the quality of our health care just grand?

 

[Van]

Child in Western Tidewater diagnosed with swine flu dies | HamptonRoads.com | PilotOnline.com

Child in Western Tidewater diagnosed with swine flu dies
Posted to: Health and Medicine News Swine Flu Western Tidewater

By Elizabeth Simpson
The Virginian-Pilot
© September 11, 2009

State health officials announced Friday that a child from the Western Tidewater Health District has died after being diagnosed with swine flu.

The girl, whose name and age were not released, had an underlying health condition that put her at greater risk of complications from the H1N1 virus, more commonly known as the swine flu.

This is the fourth death in Virginia that’s been associated with swine flu.

Nationwide, as of Sept. 9, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has reported 593 deaths caused by the new virus.

“Our heartfelt condolences go out to the patient’s family at this time of loss,” said State Health Commissioner Karen Remley in a statement. “Losing a child is a tragedy for all of us.” Without knowing the percentage of infection no one knows where this number sits compared to the regular flu.

 

[navychop]

Yes, there will be some tragedies. But overall, I can't help but think it's overblown. Concerned, yes, but not really expecting a year that we'll remember 10 or 20 years from now.

 

[truckracer]

the media has really built up the propoganda machine on the swine flu. Maybe it will happen maybe it will not. It seems funny to me that "health care reform" is a big issue at the time of the swine flu outbreak. Imagine the $$$$$ to be made by injecting poison into people...Imagine the $$$$$ to be made when the poison causes othe problems. Its funny how around here in my city- we lose 4000 citizens per year yet every year more and more clinics and doctor's offices are being built.

 

[navychop]

There is a nice, short, to the point article on this in the October issue of Popular Science, pg 50. They seem to be saying three things about why H1N1 is such a concern:


-It is very different from other flu strains, so there is little or no partial immunity in the general population.

-It is mutating very rapidly.

-It has spread faster than any other pandemic. Ever.


I wonder how often this combination of factors, or something close to it, occurs. Sure, it could mutate into something more deadly. Or less so.

 

[navychop]

One more comment: Today they're reporting 400 cases at U MD and 500 at Cornell. But they aren't saying how many cases there would usually be at this time. Kinda crucial information for deciding if this is really worse than usual, eh?

I do note there seems to be more press on the symptoms being the same or even milder. So will more of us really come down sick? Are most of the cases skewed to the young, or just most of the deaths?

As far as my wife & I figure, if we get the flu there is no point in going to the doctor. Stay home, DayQuil & NyQuil, use this little steamer thing to breathe, and maybe soak in a hot tub. And have lot's of tissues handy.

 

[jayn_j]

One more comment: Today they're reporting 400 cases at U MD and 500 at Cornell. But they aren't saying how many cases there would usually be at this time. Kinda crucial information for deciding if this is really worse than usual, eh?

I do note there seems to be more press on the symptoms being the same or even milder. So will more of us really come down sick? Are most of the cases skewed to the young, or just most of the deaths?

As far as my wife & I figure, if we get the flu there is no point in going to the doctor. Stay home, DayQuil & NyQuil, use this little steamer thing to breathe, and maybe soak in a hot tub. And have lot's of tissues handy.

I reported earlier that I thought I had gotten the flu as a reaction to the shot. However, many of my co-workers are coming down with traditional flu in the last week. I think we may be seeing an early outbreak this year, nd that would have nothing to do with H1N1.

 

[SatelliteGAL]

From the morning show...........

Harry Smith Home Sick, Probably Has Swine Flu (VIDEO)

 

[navychop]

Hadn't considered that- we may see a few more celebs and talking heads missing due to illness, than we usually do.