Substitute leased with owned receiver

[kikenovic]

I currently lease my primary receiver and own my secondary receiver.

I'd like to return the leased receiver and substitute it with an owned receiver.

Is that possible?

Thanks.

 

[dishrich]

It is, but other than NOT having to return it if you want to shut it off, what is the point of doing this?
Your monthly charges will NOT go down whether a receiver is owned or leased...

 

[HanoverPretzel]

It is, but other than NOT having to return it if you want to shut it off, what is the point of doing this?
Your monthly charges will NOT go down whether a receiver is owned or leased...

Yeah, I've never really understood the point owning a Dish receiver. You pay extra cash to own it, save nothing on your monthly bill, and can't use it for anything other than Dish service. If it saved you a monthly leased equipment fee, or you could use it to pick up free channels or some other company's channels in the event you cancelled your Dish service, I would see the value in it.

As things stand, though, all it really saves you is the $15 fee for shipping your leased receiver back to Dish in the event of a cancellation (It doesn't do anything extra that the leased ones don't, and is basically just a nice looking paperweight if you cancel service)- so unless the equipment costs $15 or less, you lose money on it. And I think it costs a lot more than $15. I'm not sure how much exactly, but probably at least $100, right? Maybe several hundred.

It's different with like a Roku box (Which I don't have, but I've read about), where, yeah, you get it for Netflix streaming, but if you cancel, there are some free things it can still pick up. But a Dish box is just for Dish and you've got to be a paid subscriber. So if it's free to lease, you as might as well lease instead of buy IMO. Maybe there is something I am missing here, though...

 

[osu1991]

Because then you don't have to listen to someone moan about being under contract and not being able to leave. I have always owned my equipment and have yet to lose money selling one , when I decide I want to upgrade. Someone is always wanting equipment without extending a contract, whether it be for occasional tailgating, camping or for a kids room.

IMO this is why most cable equipment sucks. They are always giving it away and the user doesn't care about it and the cable companies don't want to foot the bill to update to the latest technology, when it may or may not come back from customer, hence the reason you can get cable without contracts.

 

[HanoverPretzel]

Because then you don't have to listen to someone moan about being under contract and not being able to leave. I have always owned my equipment and have yet to lose money selling one , when I decide I want to upgrade. Someone is always wanting equipment without extending a contract, whether it be for occasional tailgating, camping or for a kids room.

Well, to begin with, my guess that the cost of the equipment is probably more than the early termination fee, and if you buy equipment and aren't under contract you also have to pay full price the first year, right? So it makes little financial sense from that perspective.

Now, if you can make money re-selling your's, more power to you. I just know with me, in the past, whenever people have said "Here, get this, and then you can re-sell it and make a profit", I wind up not being able to sell it at all and have to just junk the thing or leave it around collecting dust. If some people are born sales people, I'm a born non-salesperson. I could be offering bars of solid gold for a penny and people would decline to buy it, walk away, and complain that I was trying to rip them off.

IMO this is why most cable equipment sucks. They are always giving it away and the user doesn't care about it and the cable companies don't want to foot the bill to update to the latest technology, when it may or may not come back from customer, hence the reason you can get cable without contracts.

I don't really care about the latest technology, for the most part. I mean, I'd kind of like to have HD, which Dish wouldn't give me. I had HD with cable. So moving to Dish actually meant a switch to older technology in an area where technology does matter some for me. But when it comes to like this model of box versus that model, I doubt I could tell the difference. People said my cable box was old technology compared to my Dish receiver, but I'm not seeing it- they both have on-screen guides and info buttons, from my end, it doesn't seem to be much of a difference. And I can't afford DVR anyway, so that's a non-issue.

 

[osu1991]

Seeing as I've been with Dish for almost 15 years, I don't care to switch around, so the first years special deals doesn't mean squat. Just tell me what the cost is and turn the programming on. I will take the packages that I can afford. Giving me 3 months of free movies, I won't watch or something, doesn't interest me. You're not going to make a profit on reselling receivers, but you shouldn't lose money. I usually get about 65 -70% back, which I consider acceptable for a year or so use. I don't like contracts, my personal preference. I've been with Dish a long time, but at one time I had both Dish and Directv for about 5 years. Should I choose to try another provider, I want the freedom to do that without a contract, so buying the equipment is the way to go, especially the way people gripe about programming disputes. I can just get a receiver and switch if it is important to me, without worrying about still being under contract.

Basic receivers, it doesn't matter if its cable or sat, they will function about the same. Dvr's is where the difference is at. Try using the old Motorola cable boxes with 20hrs of HD storage and no commercial skip. The Dish and Direct dvr boxes have blown them out of the water for years.

 

[Jhon69]

Yeah, I've never really understood the point owning a Dish receiver. You pay extra cash to own it, save nothing on your monthly bill, and can't use it for anything other than Dish service. If it saved you a monthly leased equipment fee, or you could use it to pick up free channels or some other company's channels in the event you cancelled your Dish service, I would see the value in it.

As things stand, though, all it really saves you is the $15 fee for shipping your leased receiver back to Dish in the event of a cancellation (It doesn't do anything extra that the leased ones don't, and is basically just a nice looking paperweight if you cancel service)- so unless the equipment costs $15 or less, you lose money on it. And I think it costs a lot more than $15. I'm not sure how much exactly, but probably at least $100, right? Maybe several hundred.

It's different with like a Roku box (Which I don't have, but I've read about), where, yeah, you get it for Netflix streaming, but if you cancel, there are some free things it can still pick up. But a Dish box is just for Dish and you've got to be a paid subscriber. So if it's free to lease, you as might as well lease instead of buy IMO. Maybe there is something I am missing here, though...

It use to be to be able to subscribe to a programming package yearly you had to "own" your system, don't know if you can still do that now,but before you would get 1 month of free programming for a 12 months paid subscription.

Also before if you "owned" your HD receiver you didn't have to subscribe to a HD programming package,again don't know if you can still do that now.

And now if you want the new HD receiver format but still want a Duo HDDVR you would have to "own" a VIP922.

 

[Jhon69]

I remembered another benefit of "owned".

It used to be if you did not want to subscribe to any programming package but you wanted say locals only,or HBO only you had to "own" your system plus pay an access fee,plus the costs of the programming you wanted,now again I do not know if you can still do that with DISH.