Well, I'm still patiently looking for Echostar 7. When I get up on the roof and scan the skies, I seem to get a strong signal from the area where my true south satellite should be (at approx. 165 degrees - Ventura, California). However, when I do a blind scan I believe itsapicking up Echostar 9 instead as I get a Dish test card screen saying something to the effect of "Congratulations you have found Dish satellite at 121 degrees, etc." Of course, this throws everything off. I'm able to get certain satellites, Galaxy 10r, by extreme "nudging", but I know this isn't how it should be. Is it possible that Echostar 9 at 121 degrees is so powerful that I'm not able to pick up the signal from Echostar 7 at 119 degrees? I like to think that I'm a fairly intelligent guy but this has me baffled. Any suggestions anyone??? The one good thing is that I'm getting some good leg exercize going up and down the ladder. Thanks.