I called E* this morning inquiring about the HD locals and the need of one of the newer dishes. One CSR did tell me that there is as $59.00 charge for the dish, and that only the 4 major networks are transmitted. But I also got answers from other CSR's that locals are only on the 129 sat, so a new dish is not needed (WRONG), yes, the locals are on the 118.7 sat, but I don't qualify, and he could not tell me why (WRONG). So it's a matter of who you get. Later today after there system upgrades the info I'll try calling an account specialist and see what answer I get. I was told that the new dishes are in extremely short supply (where have I heard that one before---622---), and it may be a few weeks before anyone has them.