So fanboys, what is so great about your format?
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LMAOOne more thing. The best thing going for HD DVD is non-support from JoePS3.
Last year I listened to all the hubbub about how great HD-DVD was and how bad BD was. That the BD was overblown and that HD-DVD was the bomb. Well you got one right. HD-DVD is a bomb and it is about to be blown up by BD.
I hope all of you are here 3 months from now when BD movie sales are 70% of all HD movie sales in the US. I'll make a prediction right here right now -- Disney's Pirate Movies will sell over 2 million copies each within weeks of there release if Buena Vista can make them. When that happens it is over for HD-DVD --the fat lady will start singing.
On another note, the PS3 is so expensive it sold over 240,000 in January with only one really good game to play. So why is it selling at all? And just how many units of PS3 are going to sell in March? My prediction is if the PS3 sells to 3 to 4 million WorldWide (Right now it is at about 1.7 million in Canada, Japan and the US) so if thru the end of March the PS3 can sell another 1.5 mill it will have sold in three months what took the XBOX360 to sell in 8 months from its launch.
Maybe these numbers are rediculous but Sony is delivering 1.5 mil units to Europe, it is already the fastest selling console (including the Wii) on the internet sites in Europe. If this unit sells out in Europe and Australia and Motorstorm and a few other titles hit in March by the end you could seriously be looking at 4 to 5 million PS3's sold in just 4 months. I don't see that as a bad thing.
And every one of them will play BD movies -- can we say goodbye HD-DVD?
I hope all of you are here 3 months from now when BD movie sales are 70% of all HD movie sales in the US. I'll make a prediction right here right now -- Disney's Pirate Movies will sell over 2 million copies each within weeks of there release if Buena Vista can make them. When that happens it is over for HD-DVD --the fat lady will start singing.
On another note, the PS3 is so expensive it sold over 240,000 in January with only one really good game to play. So why is it selling at all? And just how many units of PS3 are going to sell in March? My prediction is if the PS3 sells to 3 to 4 million WorldWide (Right now it is at about 1.7 million in Canada, Japan and the US) so if thru the end of March the PS3 can sell another 1.5 mill it will have sold in three months what took the XBOX360 to sell in 8 months from its launch.
Maybe these numbers are rediculous but Sony is delivering 1.5 mil units to Europe, it is already the fastest selling console (including the Wii) on the internet sites in Europe. If this unit sells out in Europe and Australia and Motorstorm and a few other titles hit in March by the end you could seriously be looking at 4 to 5 million PS3's sold in just 4 months. I don't see that as a bad thing.
And every one of them will play BD movies -- can we say goodbye HD-DVD?
Oh one more thing, I would rather pay $600 for a product that works, doesn't overheat, delivers on the HD side and provides future safeguards like BluRay and HDMI 1.3 included then $400 for a product that freezes up , burns up, smokes my discs , doesn't play HD movies out of the box and is already being replaced 18 months into production.
Does it count if the PS3 gets to 10 million sold quicker then the XBOX360 or just when the PS3 bypasses the number of XBOX360 sold? Reason I ask is that both systems are going to rock and who cares which one you have (or both if your are fortunate) because those 10 mill PS3s will also be 10 Mill BluRay players too. Maybe a few of these folks will actually buy a BluRay movie huh?
Does it count if the PS3 gets to 10 million sold quicker then the XBOX360 or just when the PS3 bypasses the number of XBOX360 sold? Reason I ask is that both systems are going to rock and who cares which one you have (or both if your are fortunate) because those 10 mill PS3s will also be 10 Mill BluRay players too. Maybe a few of these folks will actually buy a BluRay movie huh?
JoeSP,
If what you say is true, (that the Pirate movies will sell 2 Mil and kill HD-DVD), then it will not be the format that causes people to chose their HD discs, it will be the SOFTWARE that's released. Which format does a better job will not factor into the equation. Same thing will happen when "Cars" comes out. Slam dunk for BluRay!
It's such a stupid argument. "X" will win because the good stuff is coming out on "X" and not "Y". These are decisions made in back rooms by companies with vested interests in each format.
If, in your example, the "Pirates" movies came out on the same day in BOTH FORMATS, and BluRay "pirates" discs out sold HD-DVD "pirates" discs, then the reason would be that the public thought that BluRay was better and you would be 100% right and "THE MAN".
However, the public will not think BluRay is the better delivery system, they will think that BluRay has the better software.
Fair is fair, put the stuff out in both formats and let the chips fall where they may. Anything else is just "corporate planning".
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I have both HD-DVD and BluRay, so there!
If what you say is true, (that the Pirate movies will sell 2 Mil and kill HD-DVD), then it will not be the format that causes people to chose their HD discs, it will be the SOFTWARE that's released. Which format does a better job will not factor into the equation. Same thing will happen when "Cars" comes out. Slam dunk for BluRay!
It's such a stupid argument. "X" will win because the good stuff is coming out on "X" and not "Y". These are decisions made in back rooms by companies with vested interests in each format.
If, in your example, the "Pirates" movies came out on the same day in BOTH FORMATS, and BluRay "pirates" discs out sold HD-DVD "pirates" discs, then the reason would be that the public thought that BluRay was better and you would be 100% right and "THE MAN".
However, the public will not think BluRay is the better delivery system, they will think that BluRay has the better software.
Fair is fair, put the stuff out in both formats and let the chips fall where they may. Anything else is just "corporate planning".
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I have both HD-DVD and BluRay, so there!
And I appreciate and respect that.
That's how free enterprise works best - consumer choice. :up
I always thought Blu-Ray would win just because of the capacity. I bought an HD-DVD player when they first came out because of the good deal the value electronics had here. I subsequently bought about 50 HD-DVDs because they were good movies and the quality was excellent.
I have pretty much paused in my buying at the moment because I am beginning to see the mementum building behind Blu-Ray and I see the eventual loss of the HD-DVD format. I thought for sure they would have a dual format player that really worked (not one that halfway does one format as they have now). Now I am worried about buying more into a format that could be leaving sooner than later. Sony has really done a good job of keeping dual format players off of the market.
I still have not bought a blu-ray player, I am starting to think I might get a PS3 as a player to just have the dual functionality of both Blu-Ray and video games. So for now I sit on the sidelines to see which way it is going to go. I did the same thing with laser discs many years ago, I stopped buying them as soon as DVDs came out. I probably have 300 LDs sitting around...
By my purchases to date (probably $2k in HD-DVD) I am probably an HD-DVD fan boy, but am considering converting...
I have pretty much paused in my buying at the moment because I am beginning to see the mementum building behind Blu-Ray and I see the eventual loss of the HD-DVD format. I thought for sure they would have a dual format player that really worked (not one that halfway does one format as they have now). Now I am worried about buying more into a format that could be leaving sooner than later. Sony has really done a good job of keeping dual format players off of the market.
I still have not bought a blu-ray player, I am starting to think I might get a PS3 as a player to just have the dual functionality of both Blu-Ray and video games. So for now I sit on the sidelines to see which way it is going to go. I did the same thing with laser discs many years ago, I stopped buying them as soon as DVDs came out. I probably have 300 LDs sitting around...
By my purchases to date (probably $2k in HD-DVD) I am probably an HD-DVD fan boy, but am considering converting...
Please clarify "weeks" is that 2 weeks, 3 weeks, 10 weeks, 52 weeks? DVD+BD or BD only?
If it's BD only, are you expecting a lot of people to buy multiple copies to get to 2 million sold? There won't be 2 million players out there to play the copies on so your prediction is doomed from the start.
At a sell rate of 1/4 million a month (December's numbers which are inflated for Christmas) there would be less than 1.5 million PS3s out there. There will also be less than 500,000 standalone players sold. You're also expecting a 100% buy-in on the titles. It won't happen, so your prediction is already doomed.
You are fast becoming the tabloid journalist of this forum; accuracy be damned, just go for the headline. Thanks for some Saturday morning amusement.
With your prediction ability, it's a good thing you don't live in Vegas and play the SportsBook.
And will you please stop talking about my ex-wife?
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"...Sony has really done a good job of keeping dual format players off of the market...."
The only dual format player I know of, the LG, is actually a Blu-ray player that has some HD-DVD functionality. You'll get to watch the HD-DVD movie, but not the interactive extras. That sounds to me like it's Toshiba that is raining on the parade.
The only dual format player I know of, the LG, is actually a Blu-ray player that has some HD-DVD functionality. You'll get to watch the HD-DVD movie, but not the interactive extras. That sounds to me like it's Toshiba that is raining on the parade.
Sony is already promising over 1 million PS3s for Europe launch. I bet they will be able to deliver now that I see Walmart stocking them in town, the supply seems to have caught up with demand in the US.
As we have seen, delivering just might be easier then selling. Seems the Wii is the only game in town that sells out as soon as it gets out on the shelves. It would be great for Sony if they sold out the first day or two and they actually delivered 1 million units. However, the PS3 is going to be more expensive in Europe then here in the States. Does anyone think that $100 less per system and Sony would sell all they could make -- providing games like Motorstorm are actually ready for sell?
Sony is actually cutting back on PS2 compatiblity on the EU unit to cut costs.
It will still cost more than the US version at 599 euros..
http://www.tgdaily.com/2007/02/23/euro_ps3/
It will still cost more than the US version at 599 euros..
http://www.tgdaily.com/2007/02/23/euro_ps3/
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I couldn't resist because I ran across this in another thread.
For the article to be "M$ FUD" it should be authored by an employee of MS-NBC. That's the lie.
Here's the by-line:
By Peter Svensson
Updated: 5:08 p.m. CT Feb 22, 2007
Note the AP (Associated Press) tag? This indicates that this is syndicated content that MSNBC pays both the AP and the original author based on syndication contracts. AP content can be picked up by anyone with the syndication rights. It isn't M$ FUD, it's written outside of the MSNBC fold and out of their control.
So we should see you returning on what, March 26th?
