William1, I understand your frustration. Same thing here. A 1-5 visit and the tech shows at 8pm. Tired and wouldn't even climb 7 feet up on my 2x12 pitch shed roof. Line of sight, trees and nothing he could do. How could he tell? He was on the ground in the dark! Yet I was only upgrading from a 5lnb dish to a slimline. Emails and repeated phone calls to D* got the response and a different tech fixed the problem in 10 minutes. And yes, I also agree with you on the tech. He is a rep of the company who you are paying to provide service. My employees represent my company and at all times either help or answer the customers questions or if they don't have the answer then find out who does and guide the customer to who can help. The "I don't know or I don't care attitude doesn't fly with me. If you present all the facts up front and the tech shows up not prepared to do the job because he is too lazy to read the work order, then he should find another line of work that does not require him to think or work. I work with the public everyday and I am successful because I work to take care of all the challenged. Some customers no matter what, will never be happy and I've had my share of them too. The LOS problem requires some looking at alternatives and solutions to fix as opposed to "Not my problem" There are complications and challenges with most installs. If they don't want to do the job, then just say, I am not capable of handling this type of repair. Apologize, call D* and make them aware that you only want gravy work and send someone who wants to help the customer and leave. If additional charges for service is required, then explain it up front and I will pay as deemed necessary. Just don't BS the BS'r here.