Single Wire installation questions

[ncted]

Hello,

Does D* offer a single wire solution that will work for me? I have 2 feeds coming into the house, one of which is used by Road Runner. Off the other I would like to run 2 HD-DVRs and 1 HD Receiver with MRV setup. All the coax is cabled to a central location. It is not clear to me from searching these forums and the web whether this is possible with D*. I know it is not with Dish.

Thanks,
Ted

 

[RandallA]

Yes, the technology is called SWM. The SWM lnb can feed up to 8 tuners with a single cable coming into the house and using a 4 or 8 way splitter (depending on the # of receivers). Search for SWM.

 

[ncted]

Sweet! Thanks!

 

[RandallA]

Here's a PDF about SWM technology I found at the Directv's forum site:

http://forums.directv.com/pe/Reposi...96641/SWM - Integrated LNB-ModuleTraining.pdf

 

[ncted]

This definitely looks like what I need. I assume it works with the whole-home DVR setup?

 

[kcaudiofx]

This definitely looks like what I need. I assume it works with the whole-home DVR setup?

Yes, actually its the "only" technology of directv that will work with MRV (Multi-Room Viewing AKA: Whole Home DVR)

 

[raoul5788]

You can't integrate the internet with the Directv on the same line. Just wanted to be sure you were aware of that.

 

[ncted]

You can't integrate the internet with the Directv on the same line. Just wanted to be sure you were aware of that.

Yep. I have 2 feed lines coming into the house. 1 for RR and 1 for DirecTV SWM.

Thanks,
Ted

 

[raoul5788]

Yep. I have 2 feed lines coming into the house. 1 for RR and 1 for DirecTV SWM.

Thanks,
Ted

Then the swm setup with mrv should work well for you!

 

[jtwex]

I have the SWM-8 setup & purchased the 8 output splitter for my equipment; either 8 separate receivers or 4 DVR's. I was wondering if I wanted to expand (going with all DVR's) could I simply replace the 8 output switch with the 16 output model?

I have the 5 LNB slimline with four cables running into the SWM module.

 

[RandallA]

I have the SWM-8 setup & purchased the 8 output splitter for my equipment; either 8 separate receivers or 4 DVR's. I was wondering if I wanted to expand (going with all DVR's) could I simply replace the 8 output switch with the 16 output model?

I have the 5 LNB slimline with four cables running into the SWM module.

Yes, you can. Since you already have 4 cables going to the SWM8 switch, all you need to do is replace the SWM8 with a SWM16. You will have two SWM outputs, SWM1 and SWM2 and each can feed up to 8 tuners.

The SWM16 is a bit expensive so it might be best to just call Directv if you're planning on adding more receivers. They will provide the SWM16 switch. They charged me $49.99 which I think is a great price compared to purchasing the SWM16 for $100 +.

 

[jtwex]

Yes, you can. Since you already have 4 cables going to the SWM8 switch, all you need to do is replace the SWM8 with a SWM16. You will have two SWM outputs, SWM1 and SWM2 and each can feed up to 8 tuners.

The SWM16 is a bit expensive so it might be best to just call Directv if you're planning on adding more receivers. They will provide the SWM16 switch. They charged me $49.99 which I think is a great price compared to purchasing the SWM16 for $100 +.

Interesting, My SWM switch already has two outputs labeled SWM1 & SWM2 (bought them myself) so maybe all I need is to change the splitter from a 1x8 to a 1x16 or am I missing something? The below product is what I have & I know it says SWM-8 but it does have two outputs as mentioned earlier (SWM 1 & SWM2)???????????

DirecTV SWM8 - Single Wire Multiswitch - $129 Including Power Inserter - Free Shipping


edit: I just checked & it looks like there is a different model that I would need; I also have two SWM-8's...can I use them both by combining them & then expand to 16 tuners?

DirecTV SWM16 - SWM 16 Single Wire Multiswitch, Amps & Parts for Large Installations

 

[RandallA]

The SWM8 can handle only 8 tuners. I believe you need an expander module SWM E2 to connect two SWM8 together for 16 tuners.

More info here:

DirecTV SWM 8 Wiring Diagrams

 

[jtwex]

Thanks Randal, an interesting read on the expansion model layout.

 

[BobStokesbary]

Yep. I have 2 feed lines coming into the house. 1 for RR and 1 for DirecTV SWM.

Ted,
The one additional thing to be aware of is that the DirecTV line should really have a solid copper core wire RG6. All the RF floats over the surface so the copper plated steel wire which works fine for these signals. But, the SWM needs power and a solid copper center wire is best for this application. So, you may need to have the other wire replaced with the solid copper core wire. My installer really pushed on replacing the former cable service RG6 wire from the outside connection to the splitter in the attic.

Just thought you should know.
Bob

 

[ncted]

Ted,
The one additional thing to be aware of is that the DirecTV line should really have a solid copper core wire RG6. All the RF floats over the surface so the copper plated steel wire which works fine for these signals. But, the SWM needs power and a solid copper center wire is best for this application. So, you may need to have the other wire replaced with the solid copper core wire. My installer really pushed on replacing the former cable service RG6 wire from the outside connection to the splitter in the attic.

Just thought you should know.
Bob

Thanks, Bob. Hopefully what I have will work. If not, then I will not be installing as the wife insists on no additional cables being run into the house. I see numerous Dish setups in the neighborhood, but few if any D* HD dishes. Hopefully that is not a bad sign. I'll find out tomorrow.

Ted

 

[BobStokesbary]

Sorry I did not make myself clear on this. There is no additional cable. Just replace what you have now.