Yes, but the HWS has to have the new GUI.It was asked earlier in this thread, but I didn't see an answer.............will the 4K joey work with the HWS?
Yes, but the HWS has to have the new GUI.It was asked earlier in this thread, but I didn't see an answer.............will the 4K joey work with the HWS?
So I got my "4k" setup Sunday.. Started the adventure withe my 2 hopper v1 + 2 joey v1 setup (wrangled out of them to get me back after trying sucky u-verse) So for the 4th time in 12m my 2nd hopper dies. call support ask for super. but why?? Explain 8 hour chating, 3 week, 3 box nightmare the 1st this happened, sorry.. bam.. new hopper v1 shipped..
All good, but wait what is this "hopper 3" thou speaketh of?? Heck I didn't know there was a hopper 2? So call sales, support is sending me my 4th pos hopper 1, I don't want another referb boat anchor tell me about the "best box ever". Yada.. yada.. best ever.. mkay.. lets do it..
WWWAAAIIITTT.. 1 hopper 3 joeys? Hmmm.. I had to pry my 2 hopper, 2 joey setup out of your cold dead hands, I want the same setup! No need the 16 tuner hopper is far superior, well can I speak to a super to confirm my upgrade is not a downgrade, "super will tell you the same"
So I agree, ok that'll be
$95 install..
Oh no you didnt!! Since the only reason I'm even talking 2 you is your craptacular box keeps dying, if you need to send a tech to get your snit to work right, that's your problem..
$95 fee waived..
Ok 2 days on a Sunday, good start.. Okay hopper 3 check, joey?? Hmm 3 "joey 2's" Who dat? Whadda you mean my new "4K" setup is really a One 4K + 3/1080 setup?? Grrrr... No one asked how many 4K tv's I had, no mention of "joey 2" never heard the term until I see the tech installing them, so Mr. tech what's the diff 4K vs joey 2? I just assumed my "4K" setup was all 4K? Uhh.. I just work here, they won't even give me a hopper 3 yet so your ??? = duhhhh...
Ok, lets see my new "upgrade" ok hopper 3.. mehhh.. Seems "ok" if you ignore the the ui designer being on crack..
Ok.. Settings.. people like settings.. mmm.. no settings button.. not a good start..
Home Tab
Up
Left
Enter
Down
Down
Left
Enter
And thar she blows!!! 1 key press into 8 now there's an "upgrade"
Ok tabs, home tab, lets go to Netflix, it's just over the hill, only one tab to the left, so 1 key press?
Left.. nothing
Left.. I said NO!
Ok
Home tab
Up
Left
Enter
Right
Right
Right
Right
Right
Enter
Brilliant design, just brilliant...
Ok channel up/down you can't screw that up can you?
YES WE CAN!!!
Ok lets add channel up/down, and lets put in the "carpel tunnel" position and now lets do my FAVORITE jack-hole design move.. Lets take YEARS of muscle memory that had up/down in the 4-way nav button and make the up/down do NOTHING.. YES NOTHING..
[RANT]
UNASSIGNED TOP LEVEL REMOTE BUTTONS!!!!
At least you don't give a DOINK like DTV But what moron said lets make 12.5% (4/32) of the top level buttons NON-FUNCTIONAL AAARRRRRGGGGGGG.....[/RANT]
Ok "joey 2" NO PIP EVER..
Mini-guide NON-FUNCTIONAL (the bottom channel nav. bar)
Sales.. Not happy, no one ever said "joey 2" no one said 4K/1080, I want the all "4K" setup I thought I was agreeing to in exchange for my 2 year/autopay commit. Aurgue.. Counter.. rinse.. repeat..Ok joey 4K? No problem..
$50 fee..
PROBLEM. I want the "4K system" I thought we had agreed to, not the 4K/1080 system that was never mentioned, and in my best "people's court" voice if it was not mentioned then we had no "meeting of the minds" and thus no contract.. So I want my 4k or come get your snit..
$50 fee waived..
Well, how about we waive $50 and give u 1 4k joey? Well, ok.. 3 and I would be in the haggle hall of fame, 1 was my target.. Ok $50 waived.. no problem that'll just be..
$95 for the install..
PROBLEM.. Are you serious!!! Have you not figured out in the last `1/2 hour who your dealing with.. These are not fees you are looking for..
$95 waived..
to be continued...
Well Exxcuuuseee me.. My box breaks, support makes NO MENTION that new boxes are available, so I call sales Friday night to see what's up and end up upgrading during the call, then Sunday at 1pm my new boxes are installed. Sorry I did not take my 20 or so waking hours since I became aware of the hopper 3 to become an expert in its nuances to a level that satisfies your demanding expectations.Holy crap man! Would it hurt to do a little research before you get something new? If you would have done some research you would've been on here before you upgraded and know exactly what to so. You would also find out that you can use your old 40.0 remote from your Hopper 1 and use all those one button presses you are whining about not having. You would have heard that there was a Hopper 2 as well.
Do yourself a favor and hang around here for a while, you'll learn a lot.
Well Exxcuuuseee me.. My box breaks, support makes NO MENTION that new boxes are available, so I call sales Friday night to see what's up and end up upgrading during the call, then Sunday at 1pm my new boxes are installed. Sorry I did not take my 20 or so waking hours since I became aware of the hopper 3 to become an expert in its nuances to a level that satisfies your demanding expectations.
Some of us just wanna watch some f'ing tv and think it's the company that I pay a $130 dollars a month that should be the experts at making that happen as transparently as possible. And every second I spend dealing with this is a failure on their part not mine. So I"ll make you a deal, for every hour I spend dealing with dish support you spend an hour learning proper manners, pm after 8 hour with Miss Manners and we'll be even..
Well Exxcuuuseee me.. My box breaks, support makes NO MENTION that new boxes are available, so I call sales Friday night to see what's up and end up upgrading during the call, then Sunday at 1pm my new boxes are installed. Sorry I did not take my 20 or so waking hours since I became aware of the hopper 3 to become an expert in its nuances to a level that satisfies your demanding expectations.
Some of us just wanna watch some f'ing tv and think it's the company that I pay a $130 dollars a month that should be the experts at making that happen as transparently as possible. And every second I spend dealing with this is a failure on their part not mine. So I"ll make you a deal, for every hour I spend dealing with dish support you spend an hour learning proper manners, pm after 8 hour with Miss Manners and we'll be even..
You have been a member here for a total of 6 hours and your first post is a rant which makes little, if any sense, .
What a surprise a internet forum full of obnoxious, rude, inhospitable "people". I related my experience about the upgrade process, what I received, what I paid, and what I thought about its operation. Yes, I included a "rant" about obviously poor design decisions.
I thought it would help others as what to expect, where you can push back and get fees waived etc. and the only input I get is complacently WORTHLESS comments about how it was MY FAULT that Dish uses deceptive marketing practices and comes no where near meeting its legal obligation to inform it's customers as to EXACTLY what they are receiving in exchange for a 2 year commitment.
You suggest I should have done more research, yeah reading a post just like the one I made, now that would have been helpful, so tell me what exactly all of your "boohoo may vag is so sore" posts contribute to the discussion?
If you are actually trying to help others then I suggest you post something a little more readable and informative.
Sorry, there are at least 3 people making comments, so it's tough not to feel defensive, and making distinctions about who said what mean thing is not on my to do list. Honestly, read the first post, is there anything off topic, in violation of the tos etc. something that would really justify a slap down from the community?
And btw I TRIED to make it readable and entertaining, obviously you did not enjoy my "colorful" writing style, but that's really not my problem, if you want changes we can work something out, but be aware only paying $$$ customers get editorial oversight..
I think it's just you delivery. You just come off as rude. Maybe I'm wrong.
So if I have 1 hopper 3, and 3 Joey 2's and I want to upgrade one of the Joey 2's to a Joey 4k, do they have to come and install it, or can they just send it to me and I send them the joey 2 back?
It's considered an upgrade and will require a tech to come out and install it along with renewing a 24 month commitment.
Wow seems silly since I just upgraded and recommitted the 1st of Feb...