I have to agree with you Ice. I was all exited, 'cause I never have gotten the mux on 4080 before, but that is what I am seeing also, a lot of repeats. It is some new channels though. I will have a better idea after a few days of watching. I am still glad to get them though. The thing I noticed also is kinda like what you said they are S2 so even though I get them they are very finicky. We'll see what happens, like I said in another post the tree blocking 137W may just have to go.